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#61 Post by ac83 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:49 pm

misscherida wrote:I support any plans and associated expenditure on vital transport infrastructure for our state.
Lots of people complain about SA transport systems.
It will not improve until the infrastructure is in place.
This costs mega bucks but it will improve our lives immeasurably.
Please don't be short sighted - lets do it and do it right!!!
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#62 Post by eslampar » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:04 am

second that.

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#63 Post by rev » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:05 am

Can someone explain in simpleton terms, what grade separation means exactly?
Maybe a thread pinned with terms and descriptions would be a good idea for the infra/transport section, and the regular development sections too?

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#64 Post by ml69 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:36 am

Vertically separated. Ie use of under or overpasses so that level crossings with roads are eliminated.

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#65 Post by drsmith » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:49 am

Assorted grade seperations planned for around Perth Airport.

http://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/_layouts ... D11#289790

The road engineers have clearly been given an unlimited supply of pencils for that lot. One even looks like a single point urban interchange (SPUI).

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#66 Post by monotonehell » Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:41 pm

rev wrote:Can someone explain in simpleton terms, what grade separation means exactly?
Maybe a thread pinned with terms and descriptions would be a good idea for the infra/transport section, and the regular development sections too?
You know rev, you are on the Internet at the moment. It's not like "Grade Separation" is a term that is specific to Sensational Adelaide.

(Hint google.com)

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#67 Post by Nathan » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:36 pm

monotonehell wrote:you are on the Internet at the moment. It's not like "Grade Separation" is a term that is specific to Sensational Adelaide.

(Hint google.com)

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I think the link you're looking for is: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=grade+separation 8)

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#68 Post by monotonehell » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:48 pm

Nathan wrote:
monotonehell wrote:you are on the Internet at the moment. It's not like "Grade Separation" is a term that is specific to Sensational Adelaide.

(Hint google.com)

;)
I think the link you're looking for is: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=grade+separation 8)
Well I was trying not to be rude about it.
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#69 Post by jase111 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:48 pm

Infrastructure Minister Anthony Albanese has defended Labor's spending, saying the government had funded all but one of the projects on the IA priority list.
I think this is the project that is the one that there talking about . what is the story with this development ?
How come it has not proceeded ? Anybody got any answers

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#70 Post by ChillyPhilly » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:56 pm

Shouldn't Federal money be able to fund the whole project, given that its main purpose is to separate metropolitan railway line(s) with the interstate freight line? If I remember right, when this first surfaced last year, it was always going to be a federally-funded project. Correct me if wrong.
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#71 Post by jase111 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:04 pm

Anthony Albanese is a federal minister for infrastructure so yes it is fed money that will fund the whole project

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#72 Post by ChillyPhilly » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:00 pm

Logically, yes. But I'm not so sure now, given this part:
A spokesman for Transport Minister Pat Conlon said the works had been costed at about $418 million and would need funding from the state and federal governments to go ahead.
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#73 Post by AG » Mon May 07, 2012 6:16 am

There certainly is funding for these two grade separation projects:
$443m to put Adelaide train lines underground
by: Political Editor Mark Kenny in Canberra From: The Advertiser May 06, 2012 11:00pm

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An artist's impression of the revamped Victoria St train intersection.

DELAYS at four major Adelaide level crossings will end when train lines go underground in a $443 million facelift for the city's rail network.

Tomorrow's Federal Budget will include a commitment to spend almost half a billion dollars of state and federal funding money to upgrade railway stations and build rail underpasses at key Adelaide locations.

The plans include underpasses and improvements at three main locations, one just north of the CBD at Bowden and the other two just south of the city at Keswick and Goodwood.

The changes are intended to increase traffic flow and road safety, improve rail freight competitiveness and separate heavy trains from commuter services, allowing both to be more reliable.

All major upgrades are in the federal seat of Adelaide, held by Gillard Government frontbencher Kate Ellis.


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Rail looms as election issue Courier Mail, 3 Feb 2012
$1 billion to untangle rail mess The Daily Telegraph, 7 Dec 2011
$1bn upgrade to unclog NSW rail gridlock Adelaide Now, 7 Dec 2011
$1bn upgrade for Sydney freight rail Adelaide Now, 7 Dec 2011
'Sydney commuting getting worse' Courier Mail, 1 Dec 2011

The level crossing at Victoria St, Goodwood, will also be upgraded and both Keswick and Bowden train stations will be given "substantial improvements".

Construction is scheduled to begin as early as next year following more design work.

The upgrades will allow commuter services and freight trains, of which there are some 4000 per year and growing, to run on separate grades - one under the other.

It will also enable faster and longer freight services to operate between Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth, from the present 1500m limit up to a more cost-effective 1800m in length.

The Government believes the reduced transport times from not having to stop for passenger services and the extra capacity of longer trains will aid rail competitiveness and help take some freight off roads.

Recommended by Infrastructure Australia, the under-groundings will end the current problem of goods trains being required to stop and start to let commuter trains through where their lines cross each other.

One of the city's more dangerous and time-consuming level crossings, at Leader St on the southern perimeter of the Showgrounds, will be removed in the works, and pedestrian access to the Showgrounds and parklands will also be improved.

Three others at Bowden's East St, Gibson St, and Park Tce are also to be removed.

The commitment is likely to be one of the rare wins in an otherwise tough Federal Budget to be unveiled by Treasurer Wayne Swan tomorrow.

The Government believes the project is justified on economic grounds: "Eliminating the two bottlenecks at Goodwood and just north of the CBD will complement the nearly $350 million Federal Labor has so far committed, including as part of our Economic Stimulus Plan, upgrading this rail corridor," said Infrastructure and Transport Minister Anthony Albanese.

"All up, we've rebuilt nearly a third of the nation's interstate network in just four years."

The project's total value is $443 million with $232.1 million coming from Canberra and the balance coming from state coffers.

The expenditure is good news for Adelaide which has suffered for many decades with poor rail infrastructure and a chronic lack of investment.

Mr Swan described the Budget as "the fifth chapter" in strengthening the economy for "all Australians".

In his economic note issued yesterday, he defended his push towards a small surplus as "Australia's best defence against an uncertain global outlook".

"During the week, we saw the extent of the challenges facing Europe with the unemployment rate edging up to a record 10.9 per cent, with about 17.4 million men and women in the Euro area looking for work."

But the Opposition's economic spokesman Joe Hockey dismissed the mixed messages coming from Mr Swan and predicted the expected $1.5 billion surplus would prove illusory.

"Well, all he will be doing is promising a surplus," he said.

"This year he promised, originally, a deficit of $12 billion, then it became a deficit of $22 billion and then a deficit of $37 billion."

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#74 Post by [Shuz] » Mon May 07, 2012 7:54 am

It's a good idea in general, but I see so much more potential with this project, particularly the Goodwood junction.

An effective rail network, especially a future one should provide 2x tracks for each metropolitan line, 2x tracks for each regional line and 2x tracks for HSR freight.
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#75 Post by Waewick » Mon May 07, 2012 8:05 am

it is a win. so I think in this case we would take the money and run...

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