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#1216 Post by crawf » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:28 pm

Sadelaide wrote:Lets be realistic about things. We are a small city and more comparable to a town (when looking at large towns elsewhere in the world). Why would Apple invest millions into an Adelaide store when we have a small population which is not growing at a fast rate. Until we have fast population growth we will never have large 'flagship style' stores from Global companies. This is the same reason we have no global head offices here in Adelaide.
You had to start another account just to say this?, seriously?. This is the load of crap that is damaging our city, noone has ever said they should invest millions into a large flapship store for Apple. Though we do deserve something a little better than a average generic design which ruins the entire Mall facade of Rundle Plaza.

Just because we are a smaller city doesn't mean we deserve second best. For Adelaide's size we haven't done too badly in the retail market, we have stores that still haven't opened in Perth or Brisbane and we beaten the two in getting Australia's third Zara store. Which is currently the largest store in Australia.

We also do have at least one global head office, Santos.

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#1217 Post by Pants » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:54 pm

crawf wrote:Though we do deserve something a little better than a average generic design which ruins the entire Mall facade of Rundle Plaza.
Do we though?

Apple's not going to get the same exposure here as it does with its NY, London or Sydney flagship stores so why not give use the same generic design that much larger cities in the world have?

I suspect with Apple, it's a simple proposition: We make squillions by keeping our design parameters tight. If you can work within them, great, if you can't, we'll go to the next city or site that's biting our arm off to have us there.

If the powers that be at the Mall are serious about it being the city's premier retail strip, they'll make this happen.

The Advertiser article's wrong too, Rundle Mall doesn't require balconies, but awnings. If we don't allow Apple in because they don't want an awning, that's madness.

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#1218 Post by mutt » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:03 pm

who cares anyway? apple products suck, its all marketing

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#1219 Post by Mants » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:09 pm

what's wrong with it? most apple stores worldwide have a distinctive look with a silver matte cladding on the facade.
comparing Adelaide to Shanghai or New York is ridiculous because we will never be those cities.

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#1220 Post by Nort » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:09 pm

mutt wrote:who cares anyway? apple products suck, its all marketing
Well in terms of foot traffic to the Mall, it's the type of thing that makes Rundle Mall a unique destination.

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#1221 Post by Nathan » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:09 pm

mutt wrote:who cares anyway? apple products suck, its all marketing
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#1222 Post by Pants » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:11 pm

Yeah, clearly no-one should care about Apple. I mean everyone who's bought one of their products and made it a half-trillion dollar company must be an idiot because they're shit.

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#1223 Post by mutt » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:13 pm

Nort wrote:
mutt wrote:who cares anyway? apple products suck, its all marketing
Well in terms of foot traffic to the Mall, it's the type of thing that makes Rundle Mall a unique destination.
no it doesnt. Apple stores are just another franchise selling products you can buy at any apple seller, like JB Hi Fi, NextByte, Dick Smith etc.

what would make a shopping strip a truly unique destination would be it it contained small businesses with no affiliation to global giants. even in Melbourne there are shopping strips that provide this experience.

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#1224 Post by mutt » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:15 pm

Pants wrote:Yeah, clearly no-one should care about Apple. I mean everyone who's bought one of their products and made it a half-trillion dollar company must be an idiot because they're shit.
its all marketing. apple merely applied the Target business model to consumer electronics.
they sell chinese made products that are designed by professional form designers. as for functionality, i'd rather android or windows.

apple is now a cult. its fans are completely brainwashed into thinking Steve Jobs was the messiah. i find it all sickening tbh.

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#1225 Post by Mants » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:17 pm

mutt wrote:
what would make a shopping strip a truly unique destination would be it it contained small businesses with no affiliation to global giants. even in Melbourne there are shopping strips that provide this experience.
this is a fair point, however, Rundle Mall is a more mainstream precinct when compared to somewhere like Brunswick Street in Melbourne, and an Apple store is more suited to it. Rundle Street and surrounding areas (Ebaneezer Place particularly) could be more comparable to the type of shopping experience that you are speaking of.

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#1226 Post by mutt » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:18 pm

an Apple Store is like a monorail imo

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#1227 Post by Mants » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:21 pm

mutt wrote:an Apple Store is like a monorail imo
how?

just because you dislike a product, it doesn't mean that everybody else has to follow suit. You'd find very few people in Australia that don't had an Apple product in their household.

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#1228 Post by mutt » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:28 pm

Mants wrote:
mutt wrote:an Apple Store is like a monorail imo
how?

just because you dislike a product, it doesn't mean that everybody else has to follow suit. You'd find very few people in Australia that don't had an Apple product in their household.
because people think that having an apple store in town makes the place more of a legitimate world city. this is madness, much like monorail in Springfield mentality.

who cares, its just a consumer electronics store...you can already buy all their products here anyway.

what do you want, a church you can go pray to Steve Jobs in?

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#1229 Post by Mants » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:33 pm

mutt wrote:
Mants wrote:
mutt wrote:an Apple Store is like a monorail imo
how?

just because you dislike a product, it doesn't mean that everybody else has to follow suit. You'd find very few people in Australia that don't had an Apple product in their household.
because people think that having an apple store in town makes the place more of a legitimate world city. this is madness, much like monorail in Springfield mentality.

who cares, its just a consumer electronics store...you can already buy all their products here anyway.

what do you want, a church you can go pray to Steve Jobs in?
but the same argument can be used for anything. Why are we getting a ksubi store on Rundle Street when General Pants and David Jones already sell ksubi clothes. Or why did a CK Jeans store open at Burnside when you can already by Calvin Klein products at Myer?

the monorail argument is poor because most global cities do not have a monorail, but most global cities do have an Apple store.

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#1230 Post by mutt » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:40 pm

Mants wrote:
mutt wrote:
Mants wrote: how?

just because you dislike a product, it doesn't mean that everybody else has to follow suit. You'd find very few people in Australia that don't had an Apple product in their household.
because people think that having an apple store in town makes the place more of a legitimate world city. this is madness, much like monorail in Springfield mentality.

who cares, its just a consumer electronics store...you can already buy all their products here anyway.

what do you want, a church you can go pray to Steve Jobs in?
but the same argument can be used for anything. Why are we getting a ksubi store on Rundle Street when General Pants and David Jones already sell ksubi clothes. Or why did a CK Jeans store open at Burnside when you can already by Calvin Klein products at Myer?

the monorail argument is poor because most global cities do not have a monorail, but most global cities do have an Apple store.
firstly, we're not a global city
secondly who needs Apple anyway?

thirdly, i suppose you're one of those hipsters who walks down the street spending more time looking into your iPhone than observing whats actually going on in the real world. you speak of Apple like its some deity. its just a consumer electronics company that uses its power to monopolize markets. in France for example there is quite a backlash against them because they see them for what they are.

we dont need an Apple store to legitimize this place. people from Sydney arent going to come to Adelaide to visit our Apple store FFS

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