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Lol, ok i see. For the record im supportive of the current council under Yarwood's stewardship. Ive put my money where my mouth is and moved into the CBD. Im not the habitual Adelaide basher you seem to have confused me with, but I reserve the right to criticise decisions which i think suck. Rather than working with the people who are using the space to address the problems that were being caused, they send in contractors to paint it grey and replace it with a few boards zip-tied to a cyclone fence (see attached pic of 'wall of fame') which is clearly located to be out of sight/out of mind.
Oh OK, so it is OK for Melbourne to do it, but when we do it, we are a backwater?
Again, I have to ask, did you even read the article before having your tantrum? Melbourne removed one small work (if you've ever visited that lane off of flinders st, you'd barely even notice it was gone) by accident and the CEO of the council apologised, immediately moved to prevent it from happening again, and discussed inviting the artist back to reinstate the work.
I'm actually quite disappointed with the way this whole issue has been handled.
Yarwood deserves no credit whatsoever to say that there will be 'no net loss of space'. If those blank canvases, as shown in mshagg's photo, are whats supposed to replace the artworks then that reflects some seriously poor judgement and decision making on the Adelaide City Council's behalf.
The artworks in Topham Mall added colour and atmosphere to what was (and now is) an otherwise stale and barren laneway. The street artwork was the kind of project which added to the vibrancy of the City and added visual interest to the city landscape.
To paint over an artists work and tell them that they can do their art elsewhere, in this case, a skate park on the edge of the city which is largely devoid of any interaction with its surroundings and pedestrain activity is immeasurable when compared with its previous location.
The ACC should issue an apology to the artists involved and give them back their space in Topham Mall.
Any views and opinions expressed are of my own, and do not reflect the views or opinions of any organisation of which I have an affiliation with.
[Shuz] wrote:I'm actually quite disappointed with the way this whole issue has been handled.
Yarwood deserves no credit whatsoever to say that there will be 'no net loss of space'. If those blank canvases, as shown in mshagg's photo, are whats supposed to replace the artworks then that reflects some seriously poor judgement and decision making on the Adelaide City Council's behalf.
The artworks in Topham Mall added colour and atmosphere to what was (and now is) an otherwise stale and barren laneway. The street artwork was the kind of project which added to the vibrancy of the City and added visual interest to the city landscape.
To paint over an artists work and tell them that they can do their art elsewhere, in this case, a skate park on the edge of the city which is largely devoid of any interaction with its surroundings and pedestrain activity is immeasurable when compared with its previous location.
The ACC should issue an apology to the artists involved and give them back their space in Topham Mall.
mshagg wrote:Lol, ok i see. For the record im supportive of the current council under Yarwood's stewardship. Ive put my money where my mouth is and moved into the CBD. Im not the habitual Adelaide basher you seem to have confused me with, but I reserve the right to criticise decisions which i think suck. Rather than working with the people who are using the space to address the problems that were being caused, they send in contractors to paint it grey and replace it with a few boards zip-tied to a cyclone fence (see attached pic of 'wall of fame') which is clearly located to be out of sight/out of mind.
Oh OK, so it is OK for Melbourne to do it, but when we do it, we are a backwater?
Again, I have to ask, did you even read the article before having your tantrum? Melbourne removed one small work (if you've ever visited that lane off of flinders st, you'd barely even notice it was gone) by accident and the CEO of the council apologised, immediately moved to prevent it from happening again, and discussed inviting the artist back to reinstate the work.
Hello? Is this thing on?
The repalcement space near the skate park is sub standard, I will give you that.
My main problem with your comment, is how people here tend to blame 'Adelaide' as a whole when something crap happens, whereas in other cities, people tend to lay the blame where it is due. For example, in this case, the blame should be thrown at the ACC and the lord mayor. However, to suggest that this happened because we are a 'backwater' or a 'hole' is really dissapointing.
Yes, i find the term backwater hugely offensive. I do, however, see this as an example of ACC slipping back into its 'old' ways. I genuinely think the City is close to breaking away from the image it has been stuck with for so long, the momentum of which has picked up significantly in the last few years (although more at the hands of state government than council). Hopefully less-progressive instances like this arent too frequent and dont receive too much publicity... there's so much good stuff happening but it doesnt take much to shroud it, unfortunately.
mshagg wrote:Yes, i find the term backwater hugely offensive. I do, however, see this as an example of ACC slipping back into its 'old' ways. I genuinely think the City is close to breaking away from the image it has been stuck with for so long, the momentum of which has picked up significantly in the last few years (although more at the hands of state government than council). Hopefully less-progressive instances like this arent too frequent and dont receive too much publicity... there's so much good stuff happening but it doesnt take much to shroud it, unfortunately.
They need to get over it. A public wall is a privilege to leave your "artwork" on, not a right. Buy your own building and decorate it how you wish. Far out.
monotonehell wrote:Talk on on the street is that there will be a non-destructive retribution of sorts. The underground is a bit miffed and in mourning over Topham.
That's not going to help their cause one bit. It'll just sway people that were sympathetic to street art against them.
monotonehell wrote:Talk on on the street is that there will be a non-destructive retribution of sorts. The underground is a bit miffed and in mourning over Topham.
That's not going to help their cause one bit. It'll just sway people that were sympathetic to street art against them.
Nah I don't think it'll change either point of view's view. It'll just be more of what they already do, but back into the illegal status.
Meanwhile one of the criminals is making inroads in to the art gallery:
I don't think this Government understands the concept of a vibrant and happening city. Mega clubs such as HQ, City Nightclub etc will remain open as they will most likely be able to afford the increased taxes. Though the smaller boutique places which are crucial to making our city more exciting will have to close early.
I've never heard of a fight breaking outside of LaBoheme.... Labor needs to go.
I don't think this Government understands the concept of a vibrant and happening city. Mega clubs such as HQ, City Nightclub etc will remain open as they will most likely be able to afford the increased taxes. Though the smaller boutique places which are crucial to making our city more exciting will have to close early.
I've never heard of a fight breaking outside of LaBoheme.... Labor needs to go.
It's so effing stupid. It's as if they didn't get their way with the lock out so they're going for a monetary option which will only hurt the interesting smaller places in the city. If you're not a mega club or a pokies pub, how the hell are you supposed to afford their new fee structure? Doesn't the government prefer to have the punters spread out over a variety of venues as opposed to converging on 3 or 4 mega venues..
Whilst I do not agree with this new charge, I think people are seriously over-reacting. It does say that the fee is up to $10 700 per annum, meaning that most palces will be paying less than that. Sure, businesses will not like paying it, but I doubt any of them will actually close because of it. Rather the consequence will be more expensive drinks, food and entry fees.
Will wrote:Whilst I do not agree with this new charge, I think people are seriously over-reacting. It does say that the fee is up to $10 700 per annum, meaning that most palces will be paying less than that. Sure, businesses will not like paying it, but I doubt any of them will actually close because of it. Rather the consequence will be more expensive drinks, food and entry fees.
I'm sorry, how is this a good thing?
Plus I know for a fact a couple of businesses are looking at ways to cut costs because of these fees with earlier closing times, cutting down on staff and security etc.
I don't think it's an overreaction to be against something that will have a detrimental affect on Adelaide's nightlife particularly when the council and state government are saying they want to encourage cultural precincts.
