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[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
This does look nice, wow just imagine next year all the amazing projects rising! SO many proposed this year, next year when I'm in uni, you guys will be getting a lot of pictures from me!
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[CAN] PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $140m
Get a load of this guys!
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/a-24 ... 6381460618
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/a-24 ... 6381460618
An artist's impression of proposed changes to Sturt St looking east.
A BIKE path, wider footpaths for outdoor dining and a tramline extension are among the features of a $240 million plan to transform the Sturt St area into a cosmopolitan precinct.
The developers behind a major multi-storey mixed-use development, including 427 apartments with ground-floor space for retailers and food outlets, are proposing the street improvements and are prepared to contribute millions.
The company, Sturt Land Pty Ltd - a joint venture between local developer Tagara and Melbourne-based developer Colvid - says it will spend $4.3 million on the streetscaping, as long as the Adelaide City Council contributes $1.5 million and the State Government kicks in an undisclosed amount.
Artist's impressions prepared by architecture firm Woods Bagot and landscape architects Oxigen show Sturt Land Pty Ltd has proposed narrowing Sturt St with parallel parking instead of the current angle parking, installing a bike lane on the southern side between cars and the footpath (described as a Copenhagen-style bike path), overhead green canopies to provide shade, a row of trees and upgrading surrounding roads. The wishlist includes a tramline running down Sturt St, dependent on the Government's extending the tram loop.
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Sturt Land Pty Ltd has lodged its plans with the state's peak planning body to redevelop the former Mayfield Engineering site - a 7500sq m parcel between Sturt and Gilbert streets.
The developer's consultant Stuart Moseley wrote in a submission: "Our client has approached the project not solely from the perspective of what can be achieved within the site but also to maximise its contribution to the regeneration of the broader precinct."
A Planning Department spokeswoman said the Government supported the project but was yet to make any financial commitment.nte
A City Council spokeswoman said it would consider the request for $1.5 million after the company presents its plans to the council this week.
[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
So the Copenhagen bike lane potentially makes a return to Sturt Street -- hopefully this time at the developers' expense. I wonder whether it's necessary, given the ACC has designated the street Neighbourhood status in its Integrated Movement Strategy, but better luck to it this time around. Maybe those businesses that mobilised against it last time will have had change of heart with the passage of time.
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[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
This proposal looks like it does it much better than the previous failed attempt by the council. Both directions are grouped together, so it's more obvious and there's only one to cross rather than cross one on each side. It also still maintains parking for cars on both sides (parallel instead of the current angled parks), and the parked cars add extra protection to the bike lane. The nicer landscaping doesn't hurt either.SRW wrote:So the Copenhagen bike lane potentially makes a return to Sturt Street -- hopefully this time at the developers' expense. I wonder whether it's necessary, given the ACC has designated the street Neighbourhood status in its Integrated Movement Strategy, but better luck to it this time around. Maybe those businesses that mobilised against it last time will have had change of heart with the passage of time.
My only concern with it blending in a bit with the footpath - if Semaphore Rd is anything to go by, people will walk in it like it's additional footpath, clear markings indicating otherwise be damned.
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[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
I use the bike lane that is next to the footpath on Semaphore Rd all the time because there are tables and chairs on the footpath and I am in a wheelchair and I can't get through.Nathan wrote:SRW wrote:
My only concern with it blending in a bit with the footpath - if Semaphore Rd is anything to go by, people will walk in it like it's additional footpath, clear markings indicating otherwise be damned.
[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
City south tram stop urgently needs an upgrade. A lot of people dont even know that it is there
[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
Agree with you SRW, doesn't need a Copenhagen bike lane. Sturt St carries mainly local traffic plus the odd bus route. It's hardly a dangerous stretch of road for cyclists.SRW wrote:So the Copenhagen bike lane potentially makes a return to Sturt Street -- hopefully this time at the developers' expense. I wonder whether it's necessary, given the ACC has designated the street Neighbourhood status in its Integrated Movement Strategy, but better luck to it this time around. Maybe those businesses that mobilised against it last time will have had change of heart with the passage of time.
Make it 40 km/h with parallel parking and paint normal bike lanes. Plant a landscaped median (like Halifax St) west of Whitmore Sq and add tramline east of Whitmore Sq. Simple.
[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
You raise an interesting point ml69 - this development is east of Whitmore Square, yet there are no tramlines in the render. Once the street has been narrowed to the degree shown in the render, there will be no room for tram tracks. Something has to give.
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[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
As I don't remember the geography of Sturt st too well, how far is this development from KWS? Also in this mix is the res. block planned on the KWS corner with Sturt - am I correct in this?
All VERY impressive as a development. Also added to this area id the proposal opposite 444 KWS. All good - a new KWS sth coming up.
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All VERY impressive as a development. Also added to this area id the proposal opposite 444 KWS. All good - a new KWS sth coming up.
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[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
It's about 150m from King William St, between Myers St and Norman St. The residential building you're thinking of is the corner of KWS and Gilbert St.
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Thanks for the help mate.I never thought I would reach this level of ignorance about Adelaide.
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[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
The DAC are expected to grant support at Thursday's meeting.
Some additional information:
A summary of the main elements of the proposal are:
??Three separate buildings with commercial/ retail on ground level and apartments
above and a common central courtyard area (2,630m²). At ground level the buildings
split up into six separate articulated buildings.
??Buildings vary in height from 5 levels up to 14 levels. The Woods Bagot report
identifies the buildings as A, B and C - to be developed in three stages.
- Building A: The building facing Gilbert Street. This is 10 levels (33.7m).
- Building B: (north western building - corner of Sturt Street and Norman Street).
This is 12 levels (40m) - with a podium at 18.7m, set-back between 6 and 7.5m.
This building extends along Sturt Street, where at the central area has a height
of 5 levels (referred to as Building B2).
- Building C (north eastern corner - Sturt Street and Myer Street): This is the
tallest building and is 14 levels (46.6m and 50.3m to the roof top – and AHD of
94.83m). There is a podium element at 4 levels on the southern end. This
building is joined by a footbridge to another 5 level building (19m), that is centrally located, on the southern side of the courtyard (referred to as Building
C2)
??The materials will vary in colour within each building to assist in providing building
identity. A materials samples board has been provided.
??427 apartments are proposed. These range in size from 50m2 to 99.9m2 and are a
combination of 1 bed (36%) and 2 bed (64%). The apartments are easily modified to
be made larger (either off-plan or after construction). The apartments are carefully
designed to maximise the north facing orientation and cross ventilation.
??96 apartments are registered for housing affordability, under the NRAS Scheme.
??The following non-residential floor areas are proposed:
- 1,700 m² of retail floor area;
- 720 m² of restaurant/cafe floor area;
- 870 m² of commercial floor area;
- 155 m² loading area off Myers Street.
??Balcony sizes range from 4.1m2 to 14.7m2 for one bed apartments and between
3.8m2 and 20.2m2 for 2 bed apartments.
??Building entrances to the apartments is via the public plaza.
??Communal resident open spaces provided in the form of rooftop recreation pool and
deck area (level 5 of Building C2) and internal triple height ‘break out spaces’ or
breezeway spaces within the apartment buildings. The plaza is available to the public
and has 24 hour access.
??The ground floor level has a height of 5 metres so as to be naturally lit and ventilated.
However the ceiling height for the ground floor tenancies and shop glazing will be
between 3.5 metres to 4 metres.
??On-site manager /dedicated office is located on ground floor.
??There is a central mailbox location.
??A 4 level basement car park is proposed, comprising:
- 10m wide opening to Norman Street.
- 391 car parking spaces are provided on the 3 lower levels for residents and 4 ‘go
get’ car sharing spaces. 36 apartments will not have an allocated car park.
- The 1st level has 105 spaces for visitors to the retail facility and is ticketed. This
level will be closed at night, although may be used by visitors of the residential
facility if allowed access by the residents’ with a swipecard.
- Most deliveries will be via Myers Dock off Myers Street. Smaller tenancies will
have deliveries on –street.
- Refuse will be collected and stored via Envac vacuum waste management system
on Norman Street. Vehicles will back into the site so as to be off the footpath.
- 103 resident bicycle spaces are provided within car park. 66 visitor spaces are
provided within the basement and courtyard.
??A 5 star green rating and 7 star NatHERS rating is proposed
Some additional information:
A summary of the main elements of the proposal are:
??Three separate buildings with commercial/ retail on ground level and apartments
above and a common central courtyard area (2,630m²). At ground level the buildings
split up into six separate articulated buildings.
??Buildings vary in height from 5 levels up to 14 levels. The Woods Bagot report
identifies the buildings as A, B and C - to be developed in three stages.
- Building A: The building facing Gilbert Street. This is 10 levels (33.7m).
- Building B: (north western building - corner of Sturt Street and Norman Street).
This is 12 levels (40m) - with a podium at 18.7m, set-back between 6 and 7.5m.
This building extends along Sturt Street, where at the central area has a height
of 5 levels (referred to as Building B2).
- Building C (north eastern corner - Sturt Street and Myer Street): This is the
tallest building and is 14 levels (46.6m and 50.3m to the roof top – and AHD of
94.83m). There is a podium element at 4 levels on the southern end. This
building is joined by a footbridge to another 5 level building (19m), that is centrally located, on the southern side of the courtyard (referred to as Building
C2)
??The materials will vary in colour within each building to assist in providing building
identity. A materials samples board has been provided.
??427 apartments are proposed. These range in size from 50m2 to 99.9m2 and are a
combination of 1 bed (36%) and 2 bed (64%). The apartments are easily modified to
be made larger (either off-plan or after construction). The apartments are carefully
designed to maximise the north facing orientation and cross ventilation.
??96 apartments are registered for housing affordability, under the NRAS Scheme.
??The following non-residential floor areas are proposed:
- 1,700 m² of retail floor area;
- 720 m² of restaurant/cafe floor area;
- 870 m² of commercial floor area;
- 155 m² loading area off Myers Street.
??Balcony sizes range from 4.1m2 to 14.7m2 for one bed apartments and between
3.8m2 and 20.2m2 for 2 bed apartments.
??Building entrances to the apartments is via the public plaza.
??Communal resident open spaces provided in the form of rooftop recreation pool and
deck area (level 5 of Building C2) and internal triple height ‘break out spaces’ or
breezeway spaces within the apartment buildings. The plaza is available to the public
and has 24 hour access.
??The ground floor level has a height of 5 metres so as to be naturally lit and ventilated.
However the ceiling height for the ground floor tenancies and shop glazing will be
between 3.5 metres to 4 metres.
??On-site manager /dedicated office is located on ground floor.
??There is a central mailbox location.
??A 4 level basement car park is proposed, comprising:
- 10m wide opening to Norman Street.
- 391 car parking spaces are provided on the 3 lower levels for residents and 4 ‘go
get’ car sharing spaces. 36 apartments will not have an allocated car park.
- The 1st level has 105 spaces for visitors to the retail facility and is ticketed. This
level will be closed at night, although may be used by visitors of the residential
facility if allowed access by the residents’ with a swipecard.
- Most deliveries will be via Myers Dock off Myers Street. Smaller tenancies will
have deliveries on –street.
- Refuse will be collected and stored via Envac vacuum waste management system
on Norman Street. Vehicles will back into the site so as to be off the footpath.
- 103 resident bicycle spaces are provided within car park. 66 visitor spaces are
provided within the basement and courtyard.
??A 5 star green rating and 7 star NatHERS rating is proposed
[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
Yep all sounds fantastic unless you're one of the poor schmucks who lives next door to the site.
Has anyone looked at the overshadowing (pg 142-146). Have a look at the solar analysis for winter solstice. Some of the properties will be overshadowed 100% of the day. So the new development gets a 5 star green rating but reduces the energy efficiency of anything in its shadow. So who pays for the negative externatilities produced by the development..... oh that would be the existing home owners.
Has anyone looked at the traffic management section. The loading dock is in a street called Meyers St which connects to Meyers Lane. They are suggesting that 15.5m long semis can enter via Meyers Lane then reverse into the loading dock. Below are images of Meyers Lane (taken from the submission), stuffed if I know how a semi will get through there.... oh again who cares about the exisiting home owners who live on Meyers Lane having delivery trucks scrapping by their homes.
This is a ridiculous development. Why do we go from one extreme of urban sprawl all the way down the Adelaide coastline, to extremes like this with developments completely out of proportion to the surrounding community. It's not hard to increase densities without resorting to highrises with 50sq/m to 57sq/m single room apartments .
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Has anyone looked at the overshadowing (pg 142-146). Have a look at the solar analysis for winter solstice. Some of the properties will be overshadowed 100% of the day. So the new development gets a 5 star green rating but reduces the energy efficiency of anything in its shadow. So who pays for the negative externatilities produced by the development..... oh that would be the existing home owners.
Has anyone looked at the traffic management section. The loading dock is in a street called Meyers St which connects to Meyers Lane. They are suggesting that 15.5m long semis can enter via Meyers Lane then reverse into the loading dock. Below are images of Meyers Lane (taken from the submission), stuffed if I know how a semi will get through there.... oh again who cares about the exisiting home owners who live on Meyers Lane having delivery trucks scrapping by their homes.
This is a ridiculous development. Why do we go from one extreme of urban sprawl all the way down the Adelaide coastline, to extremes like this with developments completely out of proportion to the surrounding community. It's not hard to increase densities without resorting to highrises with 50sq/m to 57sq/m single room apartments .
MAH
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I take it you're one of the "poor schmucks who lives next door"...?
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[CAN] Re: PRO: 43-69 Sturt Street | 50m | 5 - 14lvls |Mixed Use $1
The road will possibly be widen if it's too narrow for trucks?. This development is perfect for the city south, reasonable height and lots of street activation.
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