News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy

[neoballmon]

I don't think that would help to be honest. Although much more costly, (and will still allow someone to follow a bus directly on), a boom gate could be installed at the start, and each bus be installed with a switch to activate, and at least it will greatly reduce the possibility for people to "forget" to curve left.

[monotonehell]

I don't think that would help to be honest. Although much more costly, (and will still allow someone to follow a bus directly on), a boom gate could be installed at the start, and each bus be installed with a switch to activate, and at least it will greatly reduce the possibility for people to "forget" to curve left.

Those things don't work as you still have the people who just mindlessly follow the bus...

[crawf]

I don't think that would help to be honest. Although much more costly, (and will still allow someone to follow a bus directly on), a boom gate could be installed at the start, and each bus be installed with a switch to activate, and at least it will greatly reduce the possibility for people to "forget" to curve left.

Or the individuals who drive onto the Obahn should have their driving licences reviewed. Though I do think they should put up a large overhead sign just before the exit, warning motorists.

[Hooligan]

I don't think that would help to be honest. Although much more costly, (and will still allow someone to follow a bus directly on), a boom gate could be installed at the start, and each bus be installed with a switch to activate, and at least it will greatly reduce the possibility for people to "forget" to curve left.

Or the individuals who drive onto the Obahn should have their driving licences reviewed. Though I do think they should put up a large overhead sign just before the exit, warning motorists.

because 3 no entry signs and a busway buses only sign isn't enough.

[SRW]

You can't cure stupidity.

[rhino]

I really don't understand how people continue drive onto this!

May I suggest "Because the freaking idiots want to>"?

Did the driver stay with the car, or mysteriously disappear?

[neoballmon]

Those things don't work as you still have the people who just mindlessly follow the bus...

I couldn't help but laugh... That's shocking.

Or the individuals who drive onto the Obahn should have their driving licences reviewed.

Definately.. What is currently the penalty. Im guessing it's just 1 or 2 demerit points and a moderate fine?

[crawf]

I don't think that would help to be honest. Although much more costly, (and will still allow someone to follow a bus directly on), a boom gate could be installed at the start, and each bus be installed with a switch to activate, and at least it will greatly reduce the possibility for people to "forget" to curve left.

Or the individuals who drive onto the Obahn should have their driving licences reviewed. Though I do think they should put up a large overhead sign just before the exit, warning motorists.

because 3 no entry signs and a busway buses only sign isn't enough.

Apparently not for that 2%.

[kenget]

I drive this road to work and chuckle at the thought of people driving down there but if you weren't a local and were right behind a bus, I can understand how someone could follow it. The problem is the turn off is too easy to enter, there should be a longer ramp on for the buses with a better exit chance for cars that do make the mistake. This would mean the lanes to the left would have to be shifted over.

[witsend]

Which begs the question, what happened to the sump removers that were supposed to also assist in protecting the obahn?

[claybro]

Just been to the show today, by train .. On the Belair line, get off at Goodwood station. Just wondering why the Goodwood station is located where it is. It is not adjacent to any main road (Leader street is some distance North of the platform) Surely it would make more sence to be located just North of Leader street and Adjacent to the showgrounds with parking for the station off Leader street. This would serve to make the station in a more visable prominent location for general commuters, and at show time would be more convinient for show users, and the local residents near the current station would not have thousands of people traipsing down narrow street to the station. If the gaol loop was also re-instated, special show trains from Gawler and Outer Harbour lines could also go straight to the new station (some kind of crossover might be required to change direction back). It seems rediculous we are bussing people from ETSA PARK carpark and all those cars in the parklands, when there is a perfectly good train line right outside. showgoers could park at thier local train station and go via train right to the entrance.

[Aidan]

Just been to the show today, by train .. On the Belair line, get off at Goodwood station. Just wondering why the Goodwood station is located where it is. It is not adjacent to any main road (Leader street is some distance North of the platform) Surely it would make more sence to be located just North of Leader street and Adjacent to the showgrounds with parking for the station off Leader street. This would serve to make the station in a more visable prominent location for general commuters, and at show time would be more convinient for show users, and the local residents near the current station would not have thousands of people traipsing down narrow street to the station. If the gaol loop was also re-instated, special show trains from Gawler and Outer Harbour lines could also go straight to the new station (some kind of crossover might be required to change direction back). It seems rediculous we are bussing people from ETSA PARK carpark and all those cars in the parklands, when there is a perfectly good train line right outside. showgoers could park at thier local train station and go via train right to the entrance.

I presume it was located where it is to serve the community, just like our other inner suburban stations.

The main problem at the moment isn't the location (which is good for an interchange), it's the lack of tram platforms (which prevents it from being one).

This close to the City, there's really not much advantage to Park & Ride. We really don't want people to drive nearly all the way to the City and congest all the roads.

There was insufficient demand for diverting trains from other lines during showtime before, so why do you think a new station would change that?

The distance from Goodwood station is very short, and why do you imagine the number of people traipsing it would be a problem fir local residents?

[claybro]

Aidan, a big reason commuters chose not to use our expensive train system is that it is perceived as unsafe and inconvinient. Reasons are.
1. Train stations are not located close to major attractions, district centres and other infastructure. By close I mean less than 100mwalk.
2. Existing train stations are often away from main roads located in quiet dark back streets (goodwood being one of them) and therefore after dark are a percieved safety risk. Also due to this many poeple would not even know where the stations are located as they cannot be seen whilst driving along main roads.
I walked to Goodwood after the show today and there were many dozens of people milling around in the small side street and lane that leads to the station.
Close to the city not good for a park and ride???? This really puzzles me, when the govt have set ap a very successful park and ride at the entertainment centre (even closer to the city) I thought the idea was to keep cars out of the city as a first priority.
There appears to be no intention to make the existing station location into a tram/train interchange as it has not been for many decades so far.
In the example of the show, it apears poeple are prepared to drive to ETSA park, get on a bus to be transported to the show for about $10. or park in the parklands and walk just as far....weather permitting.
Surely would not be a huge cost to move the station 500M north for a lot of benefit not only during the show, but to make the station more accessable /visible/ safer for everyday use.

[Norman]

But there is an extra train station right outside the show... If you didn't want to walk the few metres to Goodwood you could have used the shuttle to take you to Adelaide station and then caught your train from there...

[claybro]

But there is an extra train station right outside the show... If you didn't want to walk the few metres to Goodwood you could have used the shuttle to take you to Adelaide station and then caught your train from there...

Commuters from Noarlunga and Hills line have to get off at Goodwood as these trains do not stop at showground platform. Those from Gawler and Outer Harbour/Grange have to travel into the city and change trains, sit on an ideling "show express" befroe travel to the show.
The show express does not stop at Mile end or Keswick, so show goers from the inner west have to travell into the city and chnge to either bus or train express. (or drive or walk)
Seems crazy to me, when some 600000 poeple will attend the show this week...most of them driving, when there are any number of regular trains going right past the show. And the showgrounds are not only used for the show, and are looking to be further developed.

I realise Goodwood station is only 500m from the southern show entrance, but try lugging showbags and kids 500m and then wait 30-45 mins for your next train (there is no increased shedule on the hills line). The current station is under utilised and by moving it a short distance would encourage more use not only at show time, but for daily use specially if trains from the North could directly travel there.