Delaying investment in infrastructure isn't just an Adelaide thing or even an Australia thing. In general it's a big problem, but in the context you're responding to, it's the most sensible decision. When there won't be a hugh demand until there's a change in land use that isn't imminent and doesn't bring the net benefits to make it worth encouraging, there's no justification for expensive new infrastructure - especially when there are other places in Adelaide that do have a real need for better transport infrastructure.claybro wrote:OMG!!! Is it just an adelaide thing, or do we not think about transport infastructure until AFTER everything is built.
Mawson Lakes has certainly changed a lot since it was just Technology Park and empty fields, but the changes in Port Adelaide and Salisbury weren't that big.As far as Mawson Lakes/Salisbury and Port Adelaide are concerned the 1980's might as well have been the 1800's such is the development since.
That was never the case in Adelaide. You might be thinking of Perth.As for the previous line being closed due to lack of demand?..well if the govenment had its way, the entire rail system would have been closed due to lack of demand.
Yes, because they both go to the CBD, where there's a very high concentration of demand. A railway that doesn't serve destinations with such a high concentration of demand can not attract passengers anywhere near as easily.As for the train corridor running parallel with the PREXY...yeh so what. Perth has a rail line running down the middle of its main Northern Freeway. the train is packed, as is the freeway.
And that problem will be solved when the Northern Connector is constructed.The South Road extension between the PREXY and Salisbury is already often at capacity,
Firstly, being delayed by traffic a few minutes is not that big a problem. Secondly that's not the only way buses could go - they could use the Dry Creek crossing instead and go straight onto Cormack Road.any bus route will get caught in this ever increasing traffic,
A good bus link is definitely needed, but a train service there is currently not.at present the only way direct between the 2 is by private vehicle and therefore a rail connection to Port Adelaide, could encourage more residential developement in the Port with residents able to easily commute to the Northern suburbs for work..ie Mawson/Salisbury and Edinburgh Park which now employs thousands of people. Salisbury highway cannot cope with more traffic.
That would be a fair comment for the Outer Harbour line, but the Gawler line is not overly focussed on the CBD.Our train system needs to stop being so focused on the CBD, and interconnect other suburban regions,as well as the CBD and this would be a small start.
Japan has had great success with monorails as mass transit. As for the Sydney monorail, the high fares and the route avoiding Central station have prevented it from properly fulfilling a mass transit function. The decision to get rid of it rather than fix those two problems is a disappointing one, and seems to have more to do with the convention centre redevelopment than Sydney's transport needs. But (Simpsons aside) the only other monorails I can think of that've been torn down are Birmingham, UK (an experimental Maglev that carried passengers for over a decade until it became to expensive to maintain, and was later replaced by something else) and Brisbane (where the monorail was only built for Expo'88, and was subsequently sold and moved to the Gold Coast). Can you think of any more.As for a monrail??? Oh Aidan.. ., these systems work well at airports between terminals, but as mass transit, most places that have toyed with them have torn them down...Sydney being the latest example.
Monorails are a specialist transport mode, and in the rare situations where an entirely elevated system is needed, they're by far the cheapest to construct.