COM: Glenelg Tramline Upgrade

[rev]

I would, but Im lazy.

I meant it for west terrace.

[MGR]

anyone know more on the proposed extension as per this diagram?
http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/tramexte ... al_Map.jpg

ie, if/when the extension down currie - light sq - morphett - grote may happen?

Pretty sure the govt is waiting til they have decided on the location for the new building for Dept of Transport Energy & Infrastructure before they finalise the route for the tram extension. The tram line will run past the new building if at all possible.

Personally I hope it goes through Light Sq to make it easy for a North Adelaide loop to be added (can the tram make it up montefiore hill?) or a line down torrens Rd past the redeveloped Cheltenham racecourse and onto Port Adelaide.

nice one
cheers

had read about a council proposal for the extension to the port a while ago.. but nothing since?

[Will409]

Just had a look on the extension this arvo. More concrete barriers have been installed on North Terrace. Went down King William Street and found that the flag poles have now been removed. Victoria Square has also got a tree root bell covered with tarp ready for a move. Timber sleepers have been delivered to Vic Square as well. I do hope that they are not going to be used on the track itself, half of the lot were from the original system with spike holes and plenty of wear and tear. Half were brand new though. Even so, new or not, I hope they are not used on the track through the square if they are going to lay the track in the grass.

Photos coming in a tic.

[Will409]

Sorry for the delay. photos from yesterday arvo are now here. Photos from last Sunday on KWS will be coming.


New curb work on North Terrace.


Close up showing the concrete barrier strip and the curb.


KWS without flag poles.




Sleepers in Vic Square and also that tree that is going to be shifted.


Curb work from Morphett Street Bridge.


And from the ground.

[Will409]

Finally photos from Sunday, 29/4/07. The work being done was the seal the main water pipe under the mediam strip because it had been made obselete and also foundation work for the overhead masts.


Digging the foundation.


Cement trucks 1


Cement trucks 2


Part of KWS being dug up.


Typical Australian working scene!


Cement trucks 3


Pouring concrete.


Jack hammering away at the ashalt.

[shuza]

Wow, great updates Will. Thanks.

[skyliner]

fantastic photos n this thread - real magnet to keep coming back.

On a different point, I note with great interest the number of high rise buildings being proposed and approved in southern KWS.

Thse proposals/approvals have occurred SINCE the tramline extension proposal/approval. (especially when the DEFINITE confimation of construction became known). Most of the BUILDING proposals are in the last 6 or so months - all between 10 - 12 floors. (See resi development opposite repco site, the repco proposal, Gilles Street and another very recent one just south of Gilles Street. Coupled with existing tower on the SW. corner of KWS and Sth Tce). Adelaide CBD will look very different to the big provincial city appearance of the southern end of KWS.
(Note, I have been in the process of mappng every development over 10 floors in the city and saw the above relationship during this time).

In the 1975 city of Adelaide Plan it was envisioned that a spine of high rise would go all the way down KWS Sth. - FINALLY, it is happening - and in a rapid way. A lot of redevelpment has been long over due in that area - and, as I said, I believe the tramline extension would have contributed to this due to a much more fluid flow of people south to the north and vv. without associated car problems. Looking forward to seeing much more of the same.

I am willing to be CORRECTED for any erroneous info and the presented viewpoint as such.

As a postscript, Coglin Place and the development on Angas St near the new Police HQ bldg, also fit in with above theory and time frame. In total 6 high rise buildings - and south of Vic. Sq. I believe that a Grote street extension may be in the air considering the proposed hotel in that area found by 'done'.

[shuza]

Whats this 1975 plan that you speak of? Ive never heard of it.

[MaximumForce]

Quite an interesting analysis and connection you have spotted there Skyliner.

Excellent! photos too Will

[AtD]

There was a spot on ABC News tonight about the relocation of a tree in the square to make way for the line.

[BillD]

Here's the crane preparing to move the tree in question


Pile of rails in Vic Sq


Barriers up in King William St. Sunday afternoon

[Will]

fantastic photos n this thread - real magnet to keep coming back.

On a different point, I note with great interest the number of high rise buildings being proposed and approved in southern KWS.

Thse proposals/approvals have occurred SINCE the tramline extension proposal/approval. (especially when the DEFINITE confimation of construction became known). Most of the BUILDING proposals are in the last 6 or so months - all between 10 - 12 floors. (See resi development opposite repco site, the repco proposal, Gilles Street and another very recent one just south of Gilles Street. Coupled with existing tower on the SW. corner of KWS and Sth Tce). Adelaide CBD will look very different to the big provincial city appearance of the southern end of KWS.
(Note, I have been in the process of mappng every development over 10 floors in the city and saw the above relationship during this time).

In the 1975 city of Adelaide Plan it was envisioned that a spine of high rise would go all the way down KWS Sth. - FINALLY, it is happening - and in a rapid way. A lot of redevelpment has been long over due in that area - and, as I said, I believe the tramline extension would have contributed to this due to a much more fluid flow of people south to the north and vv. without associated car problems. Looking forward to seeing much more of the same.

I am willing to be CORRECTED for any erroneous info and the presented viewpoint as such.

As a postscript, Coglin Place and the development on Angas St near the new Police HQ bldg, also fit in with above theory and time frame. In total 6 high rise buildings - and south of Vic. Sq. I believe that a Grote street extension may be in the air considering the proposed hotel in that area found by 'done'.

Although I agree that the tram extension would have a beneficial effect upon the southern part of KWS, another factor that has provoked the recent amount of high-rise proposals for the southern section of the CBD is ultimately how the council decided to lift the height restrictions from 17m to the current 40m.

[AtD]

Ramps arrived in Vic Sq today for another tram delivery.

[AtD]

Ch10 had an ad on earlier this afternoon about how tramworks on King William Street are causing traffic chaos. Just now they had an ad how tramworks have caused the city core to be "deserted"

[skyliner]

Will said

'Although I agree that the tram extension would have a beneficial effect upon southern KWS, another factor has provoked the recent amount of high rise proposals for the southern section of the CBD is ultimately how the council decided to lift height restrictions from 17m to the current 40m."

I agree with you but venture to suggest that part of the reason the council raised the building heights would have been awareness of the benefits of tramlines to other cities. Added to this would be an alertness to studies in Adelaide concerning relocation of transport SA to Nth. Tce. in response to the tramline being extended west of the station. I note that little of anything had happened in KWS Sth. till now - strange that all this is happening together. Excellent to see however.

Shuza said
"What's this 1975 plan that you speak of? I've never heard of it.

This is a 252 page document called 'The City of Adelaide Plan'. Put out by the City of Adelaide Council. Published by Urban Systems Corporation Pty.Ltd Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth. Sydney. Printed in Australia in 1974 by George Clarke and Urban SystemsCorporation Pty. Ltd.

The document covered features like vision and objectives, streetscapes, built form, environmental considerations, movement systems, an action plan ans state government legislation considerations.

I bought a personal copy after much negotiation. (I was a secondary School teacher in Adelaide at the time and dealing with urban geography with Adelaide as a case study).