COM: Glenelg Tramline Upgrade

[AG]

With the planned underpass at Anzac Highway and the tram overpass, there would be no intersections along South Road between Richmond Road and Castle Plaza (except one or two pedestrian crossings), a distance of at least 3km.

To the north, once the tunnel gets underway, there will be no stopping between Hawker Street in Ridleyton and Thebarton Road, a distance of just over 2km.

That still leaves a section between the two sections of around 4km, with at least 3 major intersections. Tunnel, Sydney style, anyone?

[Ben]

I'm really hoping they fix up the Sir Donald Bradman Drive intersection as it's one of the worst in my opinion. But I guess it's part of their Grand plan.

[Cruise]

maybe an over/underpass at Sir donald Bradman and one at henley beach road would sure help alot.
Any one else see the irony of if one was built at richmond road and the RAA had to be relocated? would they be for or against it?

[Froggy]

Good to see that the closer this useless and waste of tax payer money project gets to finishing the clearer it gets in just how useless it is actually going to be.

"It'll connect the train line with Rundle Mall" Oh no really? You get off the train, ignore the underpass to hindley st to just short of rundle mall and wait five minutes for a tram which will take you about 50 metres that you could of walked in 2. Oh don't get me started on connecting the train line with the uni (which it doesn't) and the traffic problems on North Terrace.

[Pistol]

^^ Some people just have no idea do they.

[jk1237]

Hey Froggy, how much you wanna bet that after the extension is complete, patronage will over double compared to what is was before the new trams were bought. I have no doubt it will. Again, you can't have an inportant transport thoroughfare ending on the city fringe! Not long now, ha!

[Waz]

Oh don't get me started on connecting the train line with the uni (which it doesn't) and the traffic problems on North Terrace.

Yeah, nevermind that fact it's giving a direct connection between most of the inner southwest suburbs to the Uni, the Train Station and the rest of the heart of the city. It's main intention was never to link parts of the city together like you say, but to get commuters from the southwest direct into the CBD rather than just below it.

Think outside your own square before you go ranting about something you know nothing about.

[BradJC]

And of course don't forget the potential for further extensions: why do people not realise this is only the START of something bigger?

[Norman]

It doesn't just link Rundle Mall, it connects with buses at Victoria Square, links with seaside Glenelg, Town Hall, etc...

There is a reason the tram is used, even now without the extension, the extension will only make the tram service even more conveniet for those working in the inner city and living near the tram line. Think about it Froggy.

[Froggy]

Oh don't get me started on connecting the train line with the uni (which it doesn't) and the traffic problems on North Terrace.

Yeah, nevermind that fact it's giving a direct connection between most of the inner southwest suburbs to the Uni, the Train Station and the rest of the heart of the city. It's main intention was never to link parts of the city together like you say, but to get commuters from the southwest direct into the CBD rather than just below it.

Think outside your own square before you go ranting about something you know nothing about.

If it's main intention was to never link parts of the city then I think you should read through all 44 pages of this thread. It's a waste of time and money, a white elephant in the making.

[Froggy]

It doesn't just link Rundle Mall, it connects with buses at Victoria Square, links with seaside Glenelg, Town Hall, etc...

There is a reason the tram is used, even now without the extension, the extension will only make the tram service even more conveniet for those working in the inner city and living near the tram line. Think about it Froggy.

There's a reason trams were removed in the first place, look at the traffic problems it's causing already. Imagine if you owned one of the carparks or a carpark in one of the carparks that has now had it's right hand turn access removed from North Terrace? You'd be well fucked off.

Taking it to O'connell street past Adelaide Oval was the idea I believe yet it wasn't feasible to take it to O'connell street?! If it's not feasible to go there then it's not feasible to go where it is now. At least going to O'connell street made sense.

[UrbanSG]

Oh yes Froggy. Look at all the traffic problems :wank: I can't believe you are still going on with that crap. I use King William Street regularly in peak hour and there are less problems than before and I travel through it quicker now even with a reduced speed limit. Even the Advertiser did a backflip and realised all the traffic congestion theories were a crock. It's time you did too! Who cares about the car parks the whole point is to increase public transport usage and decrease people using cars. If you drive into town and park your car I am sure you don't mind driving an extra block or two because there are no right turns on King William Street. If you do, then hey guess what? USE PUBLIC TRANSPORT!

[Will]

It doesn't just link Rundle Mall, it connects with buses at Victoria Square, links with seaside Glenelg, Town Hall, etc...

There is a reason the tram is used, even now without the extension, the extension will only make the tram service even more conveniet for those working in the inner city and living near the tram line. Think about it Froggy.

There's a reason trams were removed in the first place, look at the traffic problems it's causing already. Imagine if you owned one of the carparks or a carpark in one of the carparks that has now had it's right hand turn access removed from North Terrace? You'd be well fucked off.

Taking it to O'connell street past Adelaide Oval was the idea I believe yet it wasn't feasible to take it to O'connell street?! If it's not feasible to go there then it's not feasible to go where it is now. At least going to O'connell street made sense.

In addition to what Urban mentioned I use North Terrace at around 4:00pm every Tuesday and Wednesday afternoon, and I have honestly noticed that in-fact I am spending about 2-3 minutes less on North Terrace. There is no factual basis to your arguement. Even the RAA has mentioned that at most traffic times on KWS will only increase by a few seconds. You should accept reality, and stop embarrassing yourself with your archaic rhetoric.

[jimmy_2486]

If you drive into town and park your car I am sure you don't mind driving an extra block or two because there are no right turns on King William Street. If you do, then hey guess what? USE PUBLIC TRANSPORT!

Yeah no shit i have to agree with you there. I mean why the hell would u want to drive into the city anyway you realize how expensive it is!!!

I once (dumb me) thought i will drive into the city for uni cos i was running late where I have a go zone bus that takes me right in front of uni (M44).

Instead of taking me 25 min with bus, the usual drive into the city is 13 min.

What I didn't realize was that to find a car park took me another 10 min on top cos they are usually full after 9am (when everyones at work) and the walk to the uni was another 5 min. Oh and also the cost for car park was like 10 bucks for the 2 hours i was there and the stress I had to endure was so not worth the effort.

So PT is def the way to go to get into the city unless your working full time in the city and have a paid car spot and want to spend more money for a luxury. And considering the fact that our PT isn't rated that good, these improvements to our PT over the long term will def make getting to the city not only cheaper, but a much more easier option.

[AtD]

I can't think of a car park on North Terrace that is having right turn access removed, unless there's on on a side street somewhere. The convention centre will now have a dedicated turn right lane, while the Casino will now have a signalled intersection! I've noticed a lot of congestion on the eastern side of North Terrace where the streetscape upgrades are going on, but other than that, no worse than usual.

Jimmy, I agree with you there! I thought the same thing, rather than catch a train I once drove down Main North Road, leaving home at the same time I normally would in the morning (8.00am). Jesus it was a nightmare, traffic was nuts around Regency Road, and I ended up being later than I would have had I taken my usual morning express train. Not to mention fuel and parking!