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#3961 Post by slenderman » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:25 pm

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rhino wrote: Lumpiest, gappiest toilet seat I've ever seen. But then, you seem to have sprouted a lot of shit in the short time you've been here, so I guess you know what you're talking bout.
Honestly mate!. There are plenty of gappy public toilets around. It looks just like one of those! :wink:

Now why would you respond in this way over someone expressing an opinion? Don't throw stones ...

Now I actually like the Adelaide oval. it's just a shame that an aerial shot isn't quite flattering to the Adelaide skyline but is easily fixed with a Northern Stand!
Don't toilet seats go the whole way around generally? Wouldn't adding a northern stand therefore exacerbate this issue? :lol: Besides, we might as well have built a whole new stadium if we got rid of the hill. For a true toilet bowl, take a look at that weird green protrusion on the Commonwealth Law Courts building.

It really doesn't make the Adelaide Skyline look any worse than it already does. If anything, it's kind of cool to see something new on a skyline angle which had been quite stagnant for about 15+ years.

I agree that you shouldn't be ridiculed for your opinions on this or Rundle Mall. It's definitely not welcoming for new people on the forum to be ridiculed, but I guess you get off to a bad start when you make facetious comments right off the bat before we get to know you. People seem to prefer if you share your experiences or a couple of photos first. Welcome to the forums though.

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#3962 Post by Aikhme » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:18 pm

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Aikhme wrote:
rhino wrote: Lumpiest, gappiest toilet seat I've ever seen. But then, you seem to have sprouted a lot of shit in the short time you've been here, so I guess you know what you're talking bout.
Honestly mate!. There are plenty of gappy public toilets around. It looks just like one of those! :wink:

Now why would you respond in this way over someone expressing an opinion? Don't throw stones ...

Now I actually like the Adelaide oval. it's just a shame that an aerial shot isn't quite flattering to the Adelaide skyline but is easily fixed with a Northern Stand!
Don't toilet seats go the whole way around generally? Wouldn't adding a northern stand therefore exacerbate this issue? :lol: Besides, we might as well have built a whole new stadium if we got rid of the hill. For a true toilet bowl, take a look at that weird green protrusion on the Commonwealth Law Courts building.

It really doesn't make the Adelaide Skyline look any worse than it already does. If anything, it's kind of cool to see something new on a skyline angle which had been quite stagnant for about 15+ years.

I agree that you shouldn't be ridiculed for your opinions on this or Rundle Mall. It's definitely not welcoming for new people on the forum to be ridiculed, but I guess you get off to a bad start when you make facetious comments right off the bat before we get to know you. People seem to prefer if you share your experiences or a couple of photos first. Welcome to the forums though.
I believe a whole new Stadium should still be required if they are going to get to host some World Cup Soccer Games.

Hindmarsh is not suitable. Adelaide Oval just plain too big and not appropriate

So they will need a 25000 all seater Soccer Stadium to FIFA Standards.

The State Government never factored this in at all.

No the Adelaide Oval doesn't make the skyline look any worse at all. It is quite nice actually.

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#3963 Post by spiller » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:44 pm

I wouldnt worry too much about World Cup soccer, we'll be lucky if Australia hosts one within the next 30 years after the dismal failure of our last bidding campaign.

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#3964 Post by buildit83 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:24 pm

Aikhme wrote:I believe a whole new Stadium should still be required if they are going to get to host some World Cup Soccer Games.

Hindmarsh is not suitable. Adelaide Oval just plain too big and not appropriate

So they will need a 25000 all seater Soccer Stadium to FIFA Standards.

The State Government never factored this in at all.

No the Adelaide Oval doesn't make the skyline look any worse at all. It is quite nice actually.
why worry about building a World Cup compliant stadium when we currently haven't won World Cup bid? if we win a bid for a World Cup we would probably have 7 or 8 years to get our act together and build one. this is a non-issue right now because Australia will not host a World Cup anytime soon anyway and if we do, compliance for a World Cup stadium will probably change in the future anyway.

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#3965 Post by Patrick_27 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:31 pm

buildit83 wrote:
Aikhme wrote:I believe a whole new Stadium should still be required if they are going to get to host some World Cup Soccer Games.

Hindmarsh is not suitable. Adelaide Oval just plain too big and not appropriate

So they will need a 25000 all seater Soccer Stadium to FIFA Standards.

The State Government never factored this in at all.

No the Adelaide Oval doesn't make the skyline look any worse at all. It is quite nice actually.
why worry about building a World Cup compliant stadium when we currently haven't won World Cup bid? if we win a bid for a World Cup we would probably have 7 or 8 years to get our act together and build one. this is a non-issue right now because Australia will not host a World Cup anytime soon anyway and if we do, compliance for a World Cup stadium will probably change in the future anyway.
I don't agree. We should always be preparing for a World Cup or Commonwealth games; maybe not so far as building venues, but at-least have blueprints and land available/ready for expected federal funding for such projects if such facilities were required for high-profile events.

Adelaide Oval meets all of FIFA's standards, stadia size isn't an issue; a World Cup game would sell out, whether it's locals or visitors filling the stands, people flock to these matches. The state government did factor this in, hence Adelaide Oval being included in the bid as a venue for any potential World Cup hosted by Australia. I don't know what FIFA standards you are referring to. IF Adelaide were to expand/build a new facility for Football (with a round ball), 25,000 would be an appropriate capacity, however try justifying to those naysayers who read the rubbish in The Advertiser (a.k.a. misinformed voters) that the government should spend $250-350 million on a new stadium which will only see the addition of 8,500 seats for a sport that won't have weekly sell-out crowds and will only be home to one national-level team. For the time being, Hindmarsh should be upgraded, roofs over the stands as a basic minimum and where possible increase the size of the pitch. Personally I'd like to see similar upgrades to all the stands as was done to the Western stand in 2000, pending on room available for such an expansion, that could add the additional 8,500 seats required to take the venue to 25,000. Food for thought. :)

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#3966 Post by f1_power » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:18 am



Interesting video....

Not sure on legalities in flying a drone over a ground like that though.....

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#3967 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:32 pm

Bloody awesome vid.
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#3968 Post by SRW » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:00 pm

Wowee. Awesome perspective.
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#3969 Post by AtD » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:27 am

Hotels, shops rake in Adelaide Oval Showdown dollars
CBD businesses were the clear winners from Saturday’s Showdown.

Final figures are yet to be collated but some experts have estimated the huge crowd of fans spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in city retailers and at licensed premises.

Adelaide Casino General Manager David Christian said the casino had an extra 3500-4000 people through the doors.

“It was like something we’ve never seen before. We get very busy on New Year’s Eve. This was another one of those nights,” he said.

“I think given visitation was up by about 25 per cent we could expect the spend to be up somewhere about 10 or 15 per cent.”

Premier Jay Weatherill said the return of football to the city is transformative for businesses.

“It will transform the winter economy for the whole of the state and it has also changed people’s mindset about what is possible in South Australia,” he said.

Rundle Mall Management Authority Chief Executive Officer Ian Darbyshire said early estimates based on an extra 3000 people in Rundle Mall spending $10 each equates to an extra $30,000 spend for those in the precinct.

“It’s a small start to getting big numbers to flow as people (businesses) get the hang of what to do with the crowds coming in,” he said.

Australian Hotels Association SA General Manager Ian Horne said it was difficult to put an exact figure on the flow on effects from the footy game, but agreed it would be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

“There is also a sense that it flowed over as far as King Williams Street east and Gouger Street, and Hindley St near North Terrace because of it’s location,” he said.

“People turned up early, they attended predominantly as couples and families, majority, and they came in for 3 or 4 hours before start time to make sure they had a meal and enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere of the whole city.

“So from that perspective it has been extraordinarily successful, the amazing thing is that this is going to happen every weekend during the winter months,” he said.

Cathedral Hotel Duty Manager Danny Cummins said the North Adelaide premise was definitely busier that usual for a Saturday night.

He said he didn’t have the exact crowd numbers or till figures.

“We were near capacity for about an hour from about 20 minutes after the game finished, but after about an hour people headed home,” he said.

“Most people had a long day so behaviour was pretty good, it was more a one or two beer sort of crowd.”

Rosemont Hotel Duty Manager Ally Pohl said the Hindley Street business was a “bit busier” than usual for a Saturday night, both before and after the game.

Mr Darbyshire said an initiative to encourage spectators to park vehicles in car parks outside Rundle Mall was also a success.

“The city centre retail still had plenty of space for the regular shoppers to come in and park,” he said.

Port Adelaide fan Tiffany King says the crowd at Saturday’s football show down was happier and more social.

And that’s just one benefit of having games at the revamped Adelaide Oval.

“I think for me being a Port Adelaide supporter, AAMI stadium felt a bit like Crow land,” she said.

“It is way better than AAMI Stadium, I think being close to everything it’s not like it’s in the middle of nowhere so you feel like you can plan to do other stuff, not just go to the footy.”

Ms King, 35, lives in Seaford so it’s also much easier for her to catch public transport to games.

“With the train line it’s much easier to get in. You would always have to drive the car or catch the bus which would take a lot longer than the train which goes straight into the city.”

She was “very happy” with Port Adelaide’s historic win, and said the whole crowd — despite what side they were on — were in good spirits.

“It was pretty electric the atmosphere, I think even having a full stadium and everybody wanted to be at the oval.

“Even afterwards, you didn’t see any problems. People were quite happy, no one was arguing or having fights.”

Close eye on transport trends to cope with fans

MORE than 20,000 fans crammed on to Adelaide’s trains and trams to travel to the historic weekend Showdown, causing overcrowding and some delays, Transport Department chief Rod Hook said.

The sheer number of supporters – double the average number who used public transport to get to AAMI Stadium – aboard trains and trams from the western suburbs exceeded the department’s expectations.

But Mr Hook said changes would only be made following analysis of commuter trends after several games.

“The train lines from Outer Harbor and the west were absolutely packed but we might see next week that there will be more reliance on buses if Adelaide supporters come from the east,” he said.

“People also came to the game a lot earlier than we expected, which impacted before our extra football services were running, and caused some lines to be too full to take more passengers.”

“Whether that was because it was the first game and people wanted to have a look around first or will be a continual trend is something we will also monitor.”

Some commuters reported 30-minute waits and long lines at the Adelaide Train Station, while others said it took them almost an hour to get from the oval to North Tce.

“The bridge on the way home to the train station was a bit crazy. (It) took almost 45 minutes from the southern stand to the train station,” one Advertiser reader wrote.

Mr Hook said there were more than 50,000 trips – 22,000 before the game and 30,000 after – over the new footbridge linking the Adelaide Convention Centre with Adelaide Oval.

“The popularity of the footbridge was much more than we expected – it was incredible really,” Mr Hook said.

He said between 60 and 70 per cent of the 55,000-strong Showdown crowd used public transport to get to the city.

“We put the message out to use public transport to get to the game and to their (supporters) credit they listened.”

He said the department would conduct regular reviews after football games to ensure public transport services to and from Adelaide Oval were continually improving.
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#3970 Post by SuperEgz » Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:39 pm

Awesome! Hopefully all this extra activity in the city before and after games will eventually lead to more development.

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#3971 Post by Vee » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:31 pm

Awesome and deserved accolades for Adelaide Oval and the new Footbridge.
The buzz in the city continued after yesterday's game as it did following the Showdown. (perhaps a tad more subdued due to the result?) Regattas, on the Riverbank, had a huge crowd of Crows supporters and Sydney fans with others. The Blue Hive was alive too.

I attended both the Showdown and the Crows first home game and couldn't help but notice the comparison in game day marketing and activities - pre-match and at half time. Port's were definitely superior IMHO but the Crows were lacklustre and disappointing (especially for an inaugural home game).

The Port supporters' march from Rundle Mall across the footbridge for the Showdown added to the pre-game build up excitement. The balloons on the footbridge, in Crows colours, for yesterday's match was a nice touch.

The pre-game indigenous 'welcome to country' was good for both but why did the Crows have theirs perform near the boundary, with a quick exit and for less effect, than Port's ceremony which moved across the oval to the centre/west?

Yesterday, the Crow flying, via the animated ribbon, around the eastern and southern stand electronic signage after each goal worked quite well but the loud, piercing shriek accompanying the big Crow on the scoreboards was annoying. Will be interested in the feedback.

The great weather, fabulous Oval, praise from interstate and locals, massive use of public transport and the new footbridge and the huge crowds has got 'footy in the city' off to a good start.
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#3972 Post by arki » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:44 pm

Well, all those things you mention come down to the difference between being a true club and being a franchise IMO. You can't simply replicate the passion and excitement a club with several generations of supporters has when you are in reality just a composite team. :2cents:

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#3973 Post by ChillyPhilly » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:21 pm

arki wrote:Well, all those things you mention come down to the difference between being a true club and being a franchise IMO. You can't simply replicate the passion and excitement a club with several generations of supporters has when you are in reality just a composite team. :2cents:
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#3974 Post by PrideofSA » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:04 pm

arki wrote:Well, all those things you mention come down to the difference between being a true club and being a franchise IMO. You can't simply replicate the passion and excitement a club with several generations of supporters has when you are in reality just a composite team. :2cents:
Wow what a load of croc

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#3975 Post by rhino » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:51 am

PrideofSA wrote:Wow what a load of croc
What is a load of croc? A load of crocodile?

Are you referring to a crock (an earthenware pot) of shit? A load of crocks of shit? How do you get a load of one croc?
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