[COM] Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

[ChillyPhilly]

Would be a shame to block the rear of Parliament House, as it's a well built stately building.
I would love to see that ugly concrete driveway between the casino (rail station) and old Parliament House removed and turned into a pedestrian plaza.

Yes. +1.

[rev]

A better compromise would be to demolish that ugly Riverside Center building on North Tce and build Walkers office tower there.
They can still build the bars and restaurants in the Festival Plaza.

[obituary resider]

A better compromise would be to demolish that ugly Riverside Center building on North Tce and build Walkers office tower there.
They can still build the bars and restaurants in the Festival Plaza.

$$$$$$$$$$$$

[MessiahAndrw]

$$$$$$$$$$$$

The title of this thread says $800m so we can assume anything goes.

[rev]

A better compromise would be to demolish that ugly Riverside Center building on North Tce and build Walkers office tower there.
They can still build the bars and restaurants in the Festival Plaza.

$$$$$$$$$$$$

That'd exactly what Walker is saying he will throw at the area. Money.
He wants to build a $100 million office tower on festival plaza.
Is that his idea of revitalizing the area?
Redevelop the plaza into something other then an eyesore. Include the government's suggestion of bars and restaurants behind parliament. They would get plenty of use every weekend especially with your footy up the road. Barrio in the same location proved very popular.
Instead of cramming a hotel behind old parliament, take the opportunity to remove another eyesore from the area and replace it with Walkers office tower. Or even a mixed use tower.
It makes far more sense IMHO to go that one step further when you consider that the oldest part of the convention center will also eventually be redeveloped.

We would then only be left with the ugly Intercontinental.
Hopefully the owners of the building see fit to give it a face lift and upgrade given all that has and will occur around them.

[Patrick_27]

A better compromise would be to demolish that ugly Riverside Center building on North Tce and build Walkers office tower there.
They can still build the bars and restaurants in the Festival Plaza.

$$$$$$$$$$$$

That'd exactly what Walker is saying he will throw at the area. Money.
He wants to build a $100 million office tower on festival plaza.
Is that his idea of revitalizing the area?
Redevelop the plaza into something other then an eyesore. Include the government's suggestion of bars and restaurants behind parliament. They would get plenty of use every weekend especially with your footy up the road. Barrio in the same location proved very popular.
Instead of cramming a hotel behind old parliament, take the opportunity to remove another eyesore from the area and replace it with Walkers office tower. Or even a mixed use tower.
It makes far more sense IMHO to go that one step further when you consider that the oldest part of the convention center will also eventually be redeveloped.

We would then only be left with the ugly Intercontinental.
Hopefully the owners of the building see fit to give it a face lift and upgrade given all that has and will occur around them.

+1.

Better yet, Walker could acquire the government office building eye-sore, and buy the intercontinental (with the intent to lease whatever he re-builds back to the hotel chain). Build a mix use development on the whole site.

[Matt]

Finally, sounds like news is imminent...

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south- ... 7243207575

[ChillyPhilly]

Finally, sounds like news is imminent...

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south- ... 7243207575

Excellent. Most interesting is the mention of the train station building being extended northwards.

[rev]

Finally, sounds like news is imminent...

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south- ... 7243207575

Excellent. Most interesting is the mention of the train station building being extended northwards.

Don't get too excited, it's the advertiser.
The train station isn't expanding to the north, but the casino has plans for that.

[obituary resider]

I am confident that they are eventually gonna ruin this area. Both the train station and parliament house have enough design merit that they shouldnt be completely blocked off on one side. I just hope that tower isnt actually gonna be shaped like the one in the renders. Ill take a well designed box over an over designed 'whatever shape that is' any day.

[Patrick_27]

I am confident that they are eventually gonna ruin this area. Both the train station and parliament house have enough design merit that they shouldnt be completely blocked off on one side. I just hope that tower isnt actually gonna be shaped like the one in the renders. Ill take a well designed box over an over designed 'whatever shape that is' any day.

+1.

Couldn't agree more. If anything they should be leveling it all (excluding all buildings heritage listed - Parliament Houses, Railway Station and AFC) and starting again. It seems that the government have this idea of continually applying band-aid jobs to the area, which no high-rise building is going to fix the logistical issues this area suffers; the number of stairs and different levels of ground, not to mention the horrible attempts that have been made to squeeze car-parking underneath the convention centre. They should also be removing the extent of service roads that run through the area. Call me a cynic, but I'll never be completely satisfied with this precinct until they completely de-clutter and start again.

[rev]

What's wrong with the carpark under the convention center? Sure cover it up with something so it cant be seen from the riverfront..

I don't have a problem with the shape of the hotel, after all it's not a proposal for the hotel.
But anyone whose been to the festival plaza should be able to come to the realization that a hotel or any building in that location will take up way too much space.
It's an open area, and with improvements like you said, it has potential for so much more. A building on the site will destroy that.

[SRW]

Can't they just give Walker the Riverside Centre to demolish/redevelop so that we can avoid having a tower plonked on the plaza that will overwhelm the architecture of Parliament House/Festival Centre/Railway Station as well as the public space of the plaza itself?

A modest-sized (low-scale) building can then occupy the site along the rear of old and new parliament houses, accommodating a parliamentary annex (with relocation of state admin offices, premier & cabinet) and maybe a museum of democracy, with accompanying public facilities (bars/restaurants). This sees both sides of the plaza activated with appropriate uses, forming a public space with an obvious purpose as a rallying point for political and artistic events.

[Will]

The Riverside Centre is not owned by the state government.

[Jaymz]

Oh my. I ride my bike past this area regularly, and I would even welcome a $20 million spruce up of the Festival Plaza/Centre. Weeds growing through the cracks
in the stained concrete, country town like lawned areas. The Festival Centre doesn't need mega bucks spent on it, just some reno's would be a massive
improvement. The area is ALWAYS devoid of people, quite a shame for an area that was once considered the centrepiece of the Adelaide CBD.