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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2656 Post by Norman » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:11 pm

Good news in relation to train patronage, especially on the Seaford line. There was an increase of more than 75% in patronage.
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-2014/15 - 13,115,666
-2013/14 – 10,388,830 (includes period of line closures on Seaford and Belair lines)
-2009/10 – 10,702,267 (previous high)
http://premier.sa.gov.au/images/news_re ... ronage.pdf

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2657 Post by PeFe » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:11 am

I cant wait for The Advertisers response to these stats......my guess is that there will be a very small article.....because there is nothing NEGATIVE they can beat up into doom and gloom....

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2658 Post by [Shuz] » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:37 am

Imagine what those stats would be like if they electrified the Gawler line.
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2659 Post by Wayno » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:03 am

I bet a large % of these additional trips were to/from Adelaide Oval, as opposed to commuting.

Good to see. The spin-off benefits of the AO redevelopment keep coming.
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2660 Post by monotonehell » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:08 am

Wayno wrote:I bet a large % of these additional trips were to/from Adelaide Oval, as opposed to commuting.

Good to see. The spin-off benefits of the AO redevelopment keep coming.
Those figures do not include 8mil free trips recorded. Those free trips include the Adelaide Oval event trips. So we can't attribute those all.
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2661 Post by Vee » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:29 am

monotonehell wrote:
Wayno wrote:I bet a large % of these additional trips were to/from Adelaide Oval, as opposed to commuting.

Good to see. The spin-off benefits of the AO redevelopment keep coming.
Those figures do not include 8mil free trips recorded. Those free trips include the Adelaide Oval event trips. So we can't attribute those all.
Thanks for this clarification, Mono.
But Wayno's on the money about the likely spinoff benefits of AO redevelopment.

How many people had never caught PT before the 'free' trips to AO for footy, Tests, Big Bash, Rolling Stones /others concerts/events, Soccer mega matches etc etc.?

It exposes the benefits of using PT, including ease of access, hassle free (no need to find parking), cost.
And the Footbridge continues to show its worth, not only for the ready access, but the colourful lighting, banners/balloons etc contribute to the atmosphere and vibe of the precinct.

Even a modest shift in thinking as a result of the trips (free or otherwise) - catch the train, leave the car at home - will assist increased overall patronage statistics. Just need to capitalize on this with ever improving PT, schedules etc.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2662 Post by Waewick » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:53 am

[Shuz] wrote:Imagine what those stats would be like if they electrified the Gawler line.
I agree, I hope this is an election issue.

budget surpluses in this state are of no value in the current climate.

Get it done I say!

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2663 Post by zippySA » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:57 am

Don't forget to throw in the safety factor - how many punters down multiple drinks at these events - and in the past, drove home? It is so relaxing at these events if things are going well to be able to say "yep - I'll have another" and know that you can safely get home.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2664 Post by Norman » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:58 am

The Gawler Line electrification works should be starting before the next election regardless

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2665 Post by bits » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:55 pm

Norman wrote:Good news in relation to train patronage, especially on the Seaford line. There was an increase of more than 75% in patronage.
It is good news indeed.
The line was extended to cover a lot more area. If catchment area was increased yet patronage shrunk there would need to be something going horribly wrong.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2666 Post by ChillyPhilly » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:17 am

Norman wrote:The Gawler Line electrification works should be starting before the next election regardless
'Should'...idealistically, or realistically?
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2667 Post by Norman » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:11 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Norman wrote:The Gawler Line electrification works should be starting before the next election regardless
'Should'...idealistically, or realistically?
Realistically. The money is budgeted for 2017/18, with the election in March 2018, but you would hope that as soon as the department has the funds they would get started on this.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2668 Post by Torrens_5022 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:53 pm

The Gawler electrification should happen ASAP - but isn't there only about 5 extra 4000 class trains? Another 20 or so would need to be purchased.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2669 Post by Norman » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:25 pm

Torrens_5022 wrote:The Gawler electrification should happen ASAP - but isn't there only about 5 extra 4000 class trains? Another 20 or so would need to be purchased.
There are 70 3000-class trains and 66 4000-class trains (which form 22 sets). That's an increase of 37 cars from our previous mix of 2000-class and 3000-class trains. I don't think there is an immediate need for more trains at this stage.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2670 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:40 am

Norm, you've clearly bought into the Government's spin.

We really have 22 new trains as the 4000 class must be a 3 - carriage set. They cannot be decoupled from one another. There has to be an A, B and T carriage in order for the train as a whole to work.

So, we actually need to be buying another 22 (66) trains for the Gawler line.
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