News & Discussion: Squares and Parklands
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One thing that just occurred to me, will the different crowds be happy with co-locating the skate park with the beach volleyball and oval sports?
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As opposed to the other uses for the parklands, which include
other uses of the parklands that include:
gardens
walking & cycling trails
interesting public spaces with art installations etc
places to support indigeneous habitat
Why must every upgrade/improvement involve a new mutli million dollar stadium and car parks?
The parklands already have some great aspects, but like everyone here I feel they are under utilised. And BTW: the parklands consist of spaces divided by roads, which somewhat undermines their appeal. Why not at least try and unify the parklands by, god forbid, closing off some of these roads or at least linking which tunnels or pedestrian bridges? (yes I know sounds expensive)
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I believe the better the amenities and access to the parklands the more they will be used and infact thrive.
A case in point is Bonython Park with its safe and ample off street parking [important for small children & families]. Further the investment in the playground [& kiosk] makes it far more popular than it ever was.
Victoria square was similarly under utilised but now attracts great events and crowds to enjoy the same area.
I think that better facilities are a smart investment as they can also generate income to pay the investment back ie with functions like weddings/birthdays etc a bit like the rowing clubs along the river.
The West Torrens council is about to invest millions on new Lockleys amenities/sports hub which will be based adjacent linear park [and the horses] and it will be open to the public and so attract cyclists, walkers, joggers as well as tourists to stop for a break or coffee on their way to the beach or the city. If anything the sooner it is done the better.
The other thing I would like to see invested in & upgraded significantly is better lighting along the Linear Park & parklands [maybe solar?] so people feel safer and also so that they can also be used more in the early morning and twilight hours.
A case in point is Bonython Park with its safe and ample off street parking [important for small children & families]. Further the investment in the playground [& kiosk] makes it far more popular than it ever was.
Victoria square was similarly under utilised but now attracts great events and crowds to enjoy the same area.
I think that better facilities are a smart investment as they can also generate income to pay the investment back ie with functions like weddings/birthdays etc a bit like the rowing clubs along the river.
The West Torrens council is about to invest millions on new Lockleys amenities/sports hub which will be based adjacent linear park [and the horses] and it will be open to the public and so attract cyclists, walkers, joggers as well as tourists to stop for a break or coffee on their way to the beach or the city. If anything the sooner it is done the better.
The other thing I would like to see invested in & upgraded significantly is better lighting along the Linear Park & parklands [maybe solar?] so people feel safer and also so that they can also be used more in the early morning and twilight hours.
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I'd back this. Since I'll be using the linear park on my commute once I move in a couple of months, I have been concerned about what I'd do if I have to head home after dark (which certainly isn't uncommon in winter). I'm sure my wife wouldn't be thrilled with the alternative of me riding the entire length of North Tce during peak hour until I can reach the Livestrong bikeway.how good is he wrote:The other thing I would like to see invested in & upgraded significantly is better lighting along the Linear Park & parklands [maybe solar?] so people feel safer and also so that they can also be used more in the early morning and twilight hours.
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Final plans for Park 27b have been released (the pocket of Bonython Park between the Outer Harbour and Gawler train lines, opposite Bowden). It's been watered down a second time. The first was a big downgrade in scope due to uncertainty on what is happening with the Outer Harbour line, but the revised plan from last year still seemed reasonable. This new plan removes a number of features.
From the 2014 plan, it's now lost the new soccer clubrooms (despite the poor state of the old clubrooms being one of the main considerations for the project), jogging track, active crossing at the railway station, public art in the underpass, and the display gardens. The scope of some of the remaining items seems to have also been reduced slightly, and the landscaping has been simplified.
And here is the original plan from December 2012:
From the 2014 plan, it's now lost the new soccer clubrooms (despite the poor state of the old clubrooms being one of the main considerations for the project), jogging track, active crossing at the railway station, public art in the underpass, and the display gardens. The scope of some of the remaining items seems to have also been reduced slightly, and the landscaping has been simplified.
And here is the original plan from December 2012:
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That looks so good.
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With no new Soccer club rooms..are West Adelaide SC still going to be based there?
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.
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Yes, they'll just use the same old club rooms.Kasey771 wrote:With no new Soccer club rooms..are West Adelaide SC still going to be based there?
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Greek heritage...used to run down facilities:( #bantzNathan wrote:Yes, they'll just use the same old club rooms.Kasey771 wrote:With no new Soccer club rooms..are West Adelaide SC still going to be based there?
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.
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Waterfront living along the Riverside?
Residential (leasehold) in the Park Lands?
Pipe dream or possibility?
InDaily:
http://indaily.com.au/news/2015/08/31/r ... nt-living/
Residential (leasehold) in the Park Lands?
Pipe dream or possibility?
InDaily:
http://indaily.com.au/news/2015/08/31/r ... nt-living/
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with all the land avaliable in this city, why do we always feel the urge to give away public land.Vee wrote:Waterfront living along the Riverside?
Residential (leasehold) in the Park Lands?
Pipe dream or possibility?
InDaily:
http://indaily.com.au/news/2015/08/31/r ... nt-living/
any encroachment on the parklands is a big no for me.
Sure use the parklands better, but lets not put houses on them, which will never ever be removed
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I don't necessarily oppose this idea, depending on what portion of the riverfront he is talking about. I would imagine that the section bordered by Morphett St, the river and the railway lines would be a prime candidate for this type of development. Provided that there is a significant chunk of land put aside for public use within the area and that the buildings are of sufficient architectural quality, I don't see the issue.
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There's a funny little area between the Pulteney and Riverside rowing clubs and the railway line that would probably be suitable. Not really sure what, if anything, it was used for in the past. Never seen a soul in there...
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You have to laugh at the comment made by the Parklands Preservation Association.. The parklands surround the CBD! If you want tranquil areas, go somewhere in the hills. The parklands should be a space that can be used and enjoyed by the community, not something that sits vacant for much of the year and is uninviting for people..New vision for Adelaide Parklands released
THE new vision for the Parklands includes redesigning of southern and western parts of the city’s green belt, building a skate park along the Riverbank and increasing the capacity to host more events.
The moves are part of the new Adelaide Park Lands Management Strategy, which will go out to public consultation next Monday.
Some of the major changes in the strategy include redesigning areas of the western Parklands, including Park 24 and 25, to cater for future residential growth and the expansion of UniSA and the health precinct in the area.
Park 24 would become “the Victoria Park of the West” and include irrigated gardens and become an events space.
The Strategy was designed using public responses to Adelaide City Council’s “Shape The Parklands” community consultation program.
The council’s Team Leader of Parklands Strategy Nicholas Carr said the strategy incorporated what the public wanted to improve in the city’s green belt.
“The Parklands are so big that you can almost have it all,” he said.
“You can have areas that are busy with events, other parts for sport but you can still keep those areas of tranquillity and that’s really important.
“We want more people engaging with the Parklands and that means everything from more events to even just people getting out and walking around.”
The south Parklands would also be rejuvenated, particularly Park 19, which would be transformed into “Central Park in the South” and be expanded into a major activity hub with irrigated gardens and a fenced dog park.
The city’s new permanent skate park would be build in Park 26, on the Riverbank, and Veale Gardens would be altered to make it suitable for small to medium-scale events. The conservatory would also be redeveloped.
Rymill Park would also be “enhanced” after the State Government’s controversial $160 million O-Bahn extension, which includes a bus tunnel surfacing in the area near Grenfell St, is completed in 2017.
Adelaide Park Lands Preservation Association president Ian Gilfillan said he was concerned the changes would lead to more concrete and fences erected in the city’s green belt.
“There is this thoughtless drive to cram more people and events into the Parklands and as a result we are very likely going to end up with even more concrete and fenced-off areas,” he said.
“The council and the State Government seem unable to understand the value of having open space in the Parklands and as a result we risk losing some of the most tranquil areas.”
The strategy also includes scope for increasing the number of cafes in the Parklands and potentially setting up designated areas for food trucks.
Mr Carr said allowing food trucks in certain areas could help the council determine which places would be best suited to permanent cafes.
“Some of the most popular parks, like Rymill or Bonython, are places where you can stop and get a coffee,” he said.
“We have to be sensitive in the way we do it but there is an opportunity there.
“Allowing food trucks (first) in some of these areas could be a way of understanding the potential demand in an area before (building permanent structures).
The strategy also calls more lighting, tree planting on the edge of the Parklands, art installations and improved connections with neighbouring residential areas.
Another proposal is to complete masterplans for all the city squares.
The realisation of the strategy would require funding from either state or federal governments for some projects and could take several years to be achieved.
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here's an image of the parkland numbering, in case you had not committed to memory. There will be a test!
By the way, the above AdelaideNow article is about 2 months late. The ACC report was released in late-September and I posted a summary over here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=451&start=3030#p137423
By the way, the above AdelaideNow article is about 2 months late. The ACC report was released in late-September and I posted a summary over here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=451&start=3030#p137423
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