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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#781 Post by jk1237 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:43 pm

AtD wrote:Seems silly to me. It could work at a bus lane, bypassing traffic, but spending such a large amount to retrofit all the buses to have right side doors would be a massive cost for just 5 stops! It could be better spent on more buses!
I do agree. If they are doing this because they think King William St is too congested im once again bewildered. Why does everyone and especially the media have constant heart attacks about King William St potentially being a nightmare. People, please, please, personally stand somewhere along King W St for more than 5 mins, whether it be peak hour or not, and you will notice virtually no congestion on King W St, compared to other roads. Potentially, it should be at its worst now, because the 2 lanes are closed off for the tram project, and the bee line buses are still running every few mins. When the tram is up and running, the bee line buses wont be there which now account for a large % of buses travelling down the street. Therefore there might be even less of this "horific congestion" that we are aparently seeing now. Replace the bloody train windows or something!

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#782 Post by Bulldozer » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:29 am

Yeah, it's a stupid idea alright. The cost of getting busses to suit just a few stops would wouldn't justify the benefits, plus such busses would have reduced capacity. Besides, aren't trams going to be running every few minutes?

I agree jk1237, congestion in the city is a non-issue. If you want to see congestion go stand on South Road at Edwardstown during rush hour, but even then that's not really congestion compared to what can happen over here on the east coast.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#783 Post by sam » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:18 am

Some more pics from me...

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#784 Post by bmw boy » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:29 am

Bulldozer wrote:Yeah, it's a stupid idea alright. The cost of getting busses to suit just a few stops would wouldn't justify the benefits, plus such busses would have reduced capacity. Besides, aren't trams going to be running every few minutes?
every seven minutes i believe.

but if they buy more trams... im guessing... that would then be quicker again. Also if they extend the line to North Adelaide and North Tce (City East Direction), even more trams would be on the line.... so i dont think it would work....and this whole bus idea would no longer be possible and would have been a waste of money.
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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#785 Post by Howie » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:59 am

sam wrote:Some more pics from me...

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Excellent pictures Sam, i especially like this one here.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#786 Post by bmw boy » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:08 pm

Yeh picks are great. Nice Vantage point

Its good as you can see in the photo howie pointed out.... The semi new comm law courts plus the SA Water going up.... and then the tram line obviously...

the whole area is starting to come alive.

can't wait till something happens 2 vic sq!

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#787 Post by Cruise » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:33 pm

bmw boy wrote:
Bulldozer wrote:Yeah, it's a stupid idea alright. The cost of getting busses to suit just a few stops would wouldn't justify the benefits, plus such busses would have reduced capacity. Besides, aren't trams going to be running every few minutes?
every seven minutes i believe.
But i cant wait seven minutes i want to board NOW!!!

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#788 Post by Will » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:37 pm

Howie wrote:
sam wrote:Some more pics from me...

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Excellent pictures Sam, i especially like this one here.
Yes, I was also thinking the same thing. The photo captures the 'new Adelaide'.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#789 Post by rhino » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:16 pm

You da man, Sam!

Good work 8)
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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#790 Post by sam » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:39 pm

Thanks for the comments!

1.2MB Fullsize (2560x1920) image here if you want it

I was so pleased when I walked onto the Pool Deck and discovered a tram was just pulling in - made the perfect shot - is the wallpaper for a while :)

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#791 Post by Tyler_Durden » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:44 pm

bmw boy wrote:Also if they extend the line to North Adelaide and North Tce (City East Direction),
Never ever would they extend a tram line over the eastern half of North Terrace while poles and overhead wires are necessary* to power trams. It would be considered far too ugly an addition to such an iconic boulevard. And while I don't always find these overhead wires ugly in most areas, and can in fact add some character, I would agree that they'd ruin the look of North Terrace east if they were situated there.

* I believe there is technology around where trams can be powered through the tracks themselves and don't require overhead cables, but the SA Government did rule out the use of this technology with the current upgrade because of the dangers involved with having 'live' tracks.

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#792 Post by rhino » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:17 pm

As the eastern end of North Tce is a atraight bit of road, perhaps we could dig a trench along it, put some big drums and motors at each end, and "cable car" the trams along that stretch :D :D

Do I score any points for being the first person to use "cable car" as a verb?
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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#793 Post by Shuz » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:23 pm

Loving it sick!

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#794 Post by urban » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:23 pm

It has been a few years since we have had a good cable car proposal. :wink:

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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade

#795 Post by BillD » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:31 pm

Nice shots Sam!
I went into town after work tonight following a call from friend Trevor who told me that half of the overhead is up. It was already too dark for photos but there it was from City West around into Victoria Square. The Eastern side wire is up but not correctly attached to the horizontals yet. A chain block was in place at City West for tensioning and a couple of pulleys at the North Tce corner.

The media today were predicting concreting works in King William St tonight and over the weekend ahead of next weekend's disconnection of the current terminus.

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