News & Discussion: Trams

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1291 Post by Norman » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:55 am

Splashmo wrote:Do you think if the trams head out to Prospect or Magill we'll ever have Melbourne-style stops where cars have to wait for passengers to get on and off?
No, they wouldn't meet disability access standards. They will all need to be full stops with platforms.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1292 Post by rubberman » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:31 pm

Haso wrote:According to the video we might (hopefully) have something like this:

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If so, do we have a company in Australia capable of manufacturing switches of this scale (grand union)?
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Melbourne has been using Czech manufactured special work.

http://zpravy.e15.cz/byznys/prumysl-a-e ... ie-1020136

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1293 Post by SouthAussie94 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:54 pm

Norman wrote:
Splashmo wrote:Do you think if the trams head out to Prospect or Magill we'll ever have Melbourne-style stops where cars have to wait for passengers to get on and off?
No, they wouldn't meet disability access standards. They will all need to be full stops with platforms.
Does the stop midway down Jetty road (stop 16?) meet disability standards? Could something similar be used on other routes?
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1294 Post by Norman » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:14 am

SouthAussie94 wrote:
Norman wrote:
Splashmo wrote:Do you think if the trams head out to Prospect or Magill we'll ever have Melbourne-style stops where cars have to wait for passengers to get on and off?
No, they wouldn't meet disability access standards. They will all need to be full stops with platforms.
Does the stop midway down Jetty road (stop 16?) meet disability standards? Could something similar be used on other routes?
Yes, that stop meets access standards after the platforms were installed a few years ago. It can be delivered in a similar street environment, it depends on the surrounding buildings, streetscape and land use.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1295 Post by rubberman » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:29 am

Here's another option shown in a photo taken by Tony Prescott in Vienna. I believe Melbourne has some as well.

http://www.historyworks.com.au/ViennaPlatform2.jpg

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#1296 Post by Ben » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:50 am

rubberman wrote:Here's another option shown in a photo taken by Tony Prescott in Vienna. I believe Melbourne has some as well.

http://www.historyworks.com.au/ViennaPlatform2.jpg
thats asking for trouble... hop off the tram straight into on coming traffic..

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1297 Post by Goodsy » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:55 am

Ben wrote:
rubberman wrote:Here's another option shown in a photo taken by Tony Prescott in Vienna. I believe Melbourne has some as well.

http://www.historyworks.com.au/ViennaPlatform2.jpg
thats asking for trouble... hop off the tram straight into on coming traffic..
Cars must stop for the tram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYWZY_lJRLs

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1298 Post by rubberman » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:16 pm

Ben wrote:
rubberman wrote:Here's another option shown in a photo taken by Tony Prescott in Vienna. I believe Melbourne has some as well.

http://www.historyworks.com.au/ViennaPlatform2.jpg
thats asking for trouble... hop off the tram straight into on coming traffic..
It was worse in most Australian cities where the tram stopped in the middle of the road and people had to get on and off at road level. Just imagine ladies in long skirts trying to get on a D class in the middle door.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1299 Post by mshagg » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:03 pm

Splashmo wrote:The renders look great. I'm sure this will increase congestion for cars along North Terrace, but drivers will eventually adjust their behaviour.
Anecdotally it's my experience that congestion on north terrace is primarily west of king william anyway. It's a poor choice of route for traversing the CBD in a car so not overly sympathetic for any impact the tram extension has.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1300 Post by adelaide transport » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:00 pm

interesting that yesterday trams were running a 10 minute daytime service(same as a Saturday),rather than the normal 15 minute Sunday timetable.
Loadings were good.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1301 Post by Ben » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:40 pm

mshagg wrote:
Splashmo wrote:The renders look great. I'm sure this will increase congestion for cars along North Terrace, but drivers will eventually adjust their behaviour.
Anecdotally it's my experience that congestion on north terrace is primarily west of king william anyway.
Thats since the tram extension west...

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1302 Post by bits » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:34 pm

mshagg wrote: Anecdotally it's my experience that congestion on north terrace is primarily west of king william anyway. It's a poor choice of route for traversing the CBD in a car so not overly sympathetic for any impact the tram extension has.
It is all pretty bad on North Tce from Hackney Road to Morphett St

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1303 Post by Hooligan » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:57 am

So are we all forgetting about the coast to coast light rail and Gawler line electrification that was supposed to have happened by now because of this new and shiny proposal?

Okay.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1304 Post by Norman » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:03 am

Gawler Line electrification should start next year.

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#1305 Post by Hooligan » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:10 am

Electrification to Salisbury 10 years after full electrification to Gawler was promised is not really the same thing.

Hows that tram to Semaphore and tram-train hybrid thing for the Outer Harbor line that was promised going?

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