News & Discussion: O-Bahn

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#751 Post by EBG » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:10 pm

The western end of the tunnel towards Grenfell St is being covered with the stock piled spare dirt as of today Monday 12/12/16 . Sorry could not stop for a picture-maybe in a couple of days.

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#752 Post by EBG » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:13 pm

Picture of the western tunnel entrance (Grenfell St end). Note all the stored soil being placed on top of the tunnel. Also the roof of the tunnel from Rundle Rd towards Dequetivlle Tce . all pictures 13 Dec 2016.
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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#754 Post by shiftaling » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:47 pm

Just wondering if anyone knows whether the tunnel will be o-bahn track or normal road surface?

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#755 Post by timtam20292 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:20 pm

Normal road surface I believe?

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#756 Post by Norman » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:20 pm

It will be O-Bahn track from what I've heard.

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#757 Post by bits » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:01 pm

It looks like normal painted road on surface on the animation.
Also there is multiple breaks to allow cars to cross, the enter exit of the track would be slower than just a normal road.

But tunnel show as track, would allow high speed close passes in a tight tunnel.

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#758 Post by timtam20292 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:56 pm

I'm basing my answer from the animation too but it would make sense to have an O-bahn track in the tunnel as bits has pointed out.
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#759 Post by Norman » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:10 pm

bits wrote:It looks like normal painted road on surface on the animation.
Also there is multiple breaks to allow cars to cross, the enter exit of the track would be slower than just a normal road.

But tunnel show as track, would allow high speed close passes in a tight tunnel.
I was talking about the part in the tunnel. The surface bus lane will be normal asphalt.

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#760 Post by Kasey771 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:31 pm

My guess is that purely because of economics, the tunnel will be track and the approaches will be asphalt. If the tunnel is tracked, then the walls can be closer to the sides of the bus leading to possibly a smaller tunnel by volume and thus a cheaper tunnel. That's the same layout as the existing tunnel under Park Terrace, Gilberton.
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#761 Post by shiftaling » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:41 pm

Thanks everyone for having a stab! I definitely thought the ground level was always going to be asphalt but the more I think about it, and after reading everyone's comments, it makes little sense that it could be anything but O-bahn track in the actual tunnel. The only reason against that I could come up with would be if they need it to be asphalt for emergency vehicle access, but I'm hopeful it will O-bahn!

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#762 Post by citywatcher » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:11 pm

Excavation on the tunnel entrance on Hackney Rd underway

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#763 Post by bits » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:23 pm

shiftaling wrote:The only reason against that I could come up with would be if they need it to be asphalt for emergency vehicle access
Buses are wide, a car can fit down the track, most cars have a problem with the open pit in the middle on the existing track, if it wasn't an open pit I would assume most would find the distance gutter-to-gutter of o-bahn track manageable to drive.
A modified o-bahn track with no open pit would not exclude emergency vehicles.

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#764 Post by timtam20292 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:13 am

citywatcher wrote:Excavation on the tunnel entrance on Hackney Rd underway
Indeed, passed it on my way to Klemzig on the 281 yesterday afternoon and thought they might've started digging up for the Hackney Road tunnel entrance :)

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Re: News & Discussion: O-Bahn

#765 Post by fishinajar » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:16 am

shiftaling wrote:Thanks everyone for having a stab! I definitely thought the ground level was always going to be asphalt but the more I think about it, and after reading everyone's comments, it makes little sense that it could be anything but O-bahn track in the actual tunnel. The only reason against that I could come up with would be if they need it to be asphalt for emergency vehicle access, but I'm hopeful it will O-bahn!
Could be concrete/asphalt with high kerbing to o-bahn rail specs, this would allow emergency and maintenance vehicles to pass through, as well as the occasional sneaky driver.

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