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#286 Post by Changelaide » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:56 pm

I think the site is around 700sqm, but it sits within the No Prescribed Height Limit area so the site area is not a concern. A perfect high rise student accomm site methinks..

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#287 Post by Patrick_27 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:32 pm

Changelaide wrote:until the Christian Science site is developed..
Won't be happening anytime soon... Samaras tried to buy the church to incorporate it into this development and was turned away.

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#288 Post by SRW » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:29 pm

But now it's for sale and you'd imagine that they haven't just put it to market for shits and giggles.
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#289 Post by Changelaide » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:57 pm

Precisely, and it will sell, and I imagine all the student accomm groups would be crawling all over it at the moment.

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#290 Post by SouthAussie94 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:41 pm

I imagine the ship has already sailed on this one, but could it be incorporated into this development?
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#291 Post by Mpol03 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:50 am

If it becomes another student accom, dog box, I'd rather what is there. North Terrace is a premium strip, it deserves the best.

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#292 Post by Nathan » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:00 am

Agreed, it's a prominent corner, it deserves a high quantity development.

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#293 Post by Changelaide » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:11 am

I also agree. I would love to see something high end and architectural on the site with some sort of retail/café/restaurant at ground level. IMO the size of the site doesn't really work for traditional resi apartments though, I imagine it would be costly and difficult to provide adequate parking. It's not a great position/configuration for a hotel; commercial market is fooked; so my guess is student accommodation unfortunately. And I think it will happen fast. Look at 228-231 North Tce, settled at the end of June 2016 and will be occupied by Semester 1 2018, apparently with a string of other student accomm groups annoyed at missing out on the site.

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#294 Post by ynotsfables » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:43 pm

Fortunately education is a growing industry in this state, student accommodation is a necessary requirement close to universities, hospitals and research facilities,it doesn't mean it should look bad though or be a poor investment. Good quality buildings may find other purposes in the future, for the time being we have to follow where the money is being generated.

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#295 Post by Ben » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:48 pm

The building is almost all gone and sales office is being fit out.

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#296 Post by Ben » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:22 pm

Sorry for double post but could this mean there is indeed an increase in height?
Type: Schedule 10
Application Number: S10/22/2016/A
Lodgement DateL 16/03/2017
Location: 11 Frome Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Vary previous authorisaton demolition of existing structures and construction of a multi-level mixed use development comprising retail and commercial uses, hotel, student accommodation, residential and serviced apartments, including car parking, landscaping and site works - VARIATION - alterations to floor layouts, landscaping, communal space and elevation alterations.

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#297 Post by Champs84 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:24 pm

Type: Schedule 10
Application Number: S10/22/2016/A
Lodgement DateL 16/03/2017
Location: 11 Frome Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Vary previous authorisaton demolition of existing structures and construction of a multi-level mixed use development comprising retail and commercial uses, hotel, student accommodation, residential and serviced apartments, including car parking, landscaping and site works - VARIATION - alterations to floor layouts, landscaping, communal space and elevation alterations.
I'm no expert, but I can't see 'elevation alterations' meaning anything else. Unless they're reducing height. We've seen that before...


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#298 Post by monotonehell » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:41 pm

Champs84 wrote:
Type: Schedule 10
Application Number: S10/22/2016/A
Lodgement DateL 16/03/2017
Location: 11 Frome Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Vary previous authorisaton demolition of existing structures and construction of a multi-level mixed use development comprising retail and commercial uses, hotel, student accommodation, residential and serviced apartments, including car parking, landscaping and site works - VARIATION - alterations to floor layouts, landscaping, communal space and elevation alterations.
I'm no expert, but I can't see 'elevation alterations' meaning anything else. Unless they're reducing height. We've seen that before...


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Elevation in the architectural sense refers to the flat view of the side of a building. "Facade" is another word for it. So the term 'elevation alterations' means they are changing the look or composition of a wall or walls.
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#299 Post by Champs84 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:43 pm

Elevation in the architectural sense refers to the flat view of the side of a building. "Facade" is another word for it. So the term 'elevation alterations' means they are changing the look or composition of a wall or walls.
Actually, I knew that. And now I feel stupid.

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#300 Post by slenderman » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:54 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Elevation in the architectural sense refers to the flat view of the side of a building. "Facade" is another word for it. So the term 'elevation alterations' means they are changing the look or composition of a wall or walls.
I typed that out, just in a more inefficient and time-consuming way and so you stole my thunder. But what you said.

We've seen in the new renders that there are the same number of floors as in previous renders, so it probably does not mean a height change. The main difference in the new renders is that the top two floors are now more integrated into the tower, whereas before they looked like they were just stuck on top as an afterthought. So this change in the design of the top two floors corresponds to a change in floor layouts, as described in that development application variation.

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