News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

[Nathan]

ACC putting an end to the former netball courts in Bonython Park being (ab)used by commuters. Small print mentions an intention to redevelop the area as a "multi-purpose recreational facility".

Looks like the council have changed their minds on this one. Signage about the closure is gone, and instead 4P parking signs have gone up.

[Ben]

Not surprised by this

By the way what does unappropriate mean

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger ... 64d58f4c93

Design of Adelaide Riverbank light feature not appropriate for precinct: council
Jade Gailberger, City Editor, The Advertiser
September 28, 2017 8:21am



THE design of a $600,000 interactive lighting project for Adelaide’s Riverbank has been slammed as too Gold Coast glitzy by Adelaide councillors.

A Renewal SA project titled “Reeds of Reflection” was to featrure 15 light clusters and animated LED lights spread along the southern riverbank path between King William Rd and Montefiore Rd bridges by early 2018.

But at a council meeting on Tuesday, elected member Phil Martin said the feature lights were “something you might expect to see on the Gold Coast”.

Councillors Alex Antic and Megan Hender also voiced their disapproval, saying the lights were unattractive and unappropriate for the area.

The council will now advise the State Government that it supports a feature lighting installation but wants other design option.

It had taken 18 months to develop the $595,980 installation which would boast timed animations for hourly light shows, with touch panels, microphones and motions sensors for the public to interact.

The River Torrens landscape inspired the design of the triangular shaped reeds, the largest which will stand up to 6.6m tall. Renewal SA project manager James Finnis said during the Ashes, “a person could walk past each cluster and a flash of red could come presenting a cricket ball”.

“Someone could stand at the start of the lighting feature, clap or interact with it in some way ... and it would then send a pulse of light across the precinct,” he said.

Construction was due to start in November and Renewal SA general manager people and place Georgina Vasilevski said they will work to ensure the changes have minimal impact on the total cost of the project.


“We will take the feedback from City of Adelaide elected members on board and factor them into the design, before re-presenting it to council,” she said.

“The project team and stakeholders are also exploring opportunities to create lighting choreography themed to match major events along the Adelaide Riverbank, such as Carols by Candlelight, New Year’s Eve and major football and cricket matches.”

[monotonehell]

Le sigh. If it was tacky then maybe a good outcome. But it sounded like it would have been good.

Meanwhile, the last three nights, between 1am and 4am there has been a truck-borne-plant vacuum and a pavement boring machine drilling holes in Frome street. I'm guessing it's test bores for the bike lane? Whatever it is, who ever decided that 3am is an appropriate time to make ridiculous amounts of noise while residents are trying to sleep has something coming. There's a lot of irate people suffering from sleep deprivation on Rundle Street. *twitch twitch*

[Norman]

I'm still trying to figure out who thought "unappropriate" was a word.

Me fail English? That's unpossible.

[timtam20292]

ugh really? Hope they ignore the moron council.

[Norman]

ugh really? Hope they ignore the moron council.

I don't think they can ignore the council, given that they need to approve the development. Does anyone have any documentation on the feature?

[Ser Noit of Loit]

That light pole thing looks good and I'd like to see some on the riverbank. The problem is it's in the wrong place. If it's placed there then it hurts the visual elegance of the bridge gently curving around. A photo like this



would be blocked by a closer, brighter source of light. The bridge's triangular pillar and subtle inside lighting is attractive. Better to have these light towers further down the riverbank either outside the festival theatre or the convention centre. If it has to be here then put then on the other side of the footpath.

[ml69]

I actually like the proposed lighting proposal. I think that Riverbank area desperately needs a bit bling and wow. It's pretty underwhelming at the moment.

I reckon the public would love these interactive lighting installations.

[SRW]

Tbh I tend to agree that the lights are misplaced. The lake is the vista for the promenade. Position the lights there where the action is.

[Ben]

At tonight's council meeting there is a proposal council takes back development controls. I hope this motion is not passed or we would be undoing significant progress made in streamlining large developments.

Councillor Moran will move a motion and seek a seconder for the matter shown below to facilitate consideration by the Committee:
On the basis that the City of Adelaide has formally established an independent Council Assessment Panel to assess development applications, Council requests the Capital City Committee to consider having a conversation with Minister Rau to reinstate Councils planning assessment powers including the following four options:

- Full restoration of powers for all development in the City of Adelaide
- Increase the current $10m cap to $40M
- Change trigger from dollar value to floor space to 25,000sqm
- Establish a joint City of Adelaide and State Planning Assessment panel

[monotonehell]

Until the council can demonstrate that they're aren't a dysfunctional, illogical, evidence ignoring rabble, they should have more powers taken away.

Evidence:
Sturt Street Bikeway.
Frome Street Bikeway.

[Patrick_27]

Until the council can demonstrate that they're aren't a dysfunctional, illogical, evidence ignoring rabble, they should have more powers taken away.

Evidence:
Sturt Street Bikeway.
Frome Street Bikeway.

I don't see how either of these have anything to do with the matter being discussed? I'd say all of those characteristics that you've mentioned are a show for the fact that the ACC is actually somewhat considerate of it's current residents. Unlike our government who's idea of a public consultation process is to make it all very quick, subtle and basically ensure that no one takes part in it (but those who actually do are practically ignored in the final decision process anyway...

[monotonehell]

Until the council can demonstrate that they're aren't a dysfunctional, illogical, evidence ignoring rabble, they should have more powers taken away.

Evidence:
Sturt Street Bikeway.
Frome Street Bikeway.

I don't see how either of these have anything to do with the matter being discussed? I'd say all of those characteristics that you've mentioned are a show for the fact that the ACC is actually somewhat considerate of it's current residents. Unlike our government who's idea of a public consultation process is to make it all very quick, subtle and basically ensure that no one takes part in it (but those who actually do are practically ignored in the final decision process anyway...

Have you forgotten what it was like before the $10mil rule? Interesting developments were often knocked back until they were beige boxes, because the rules said that they had to be "in character with their neighbours". Also there was the height restrictions still purposed toward the "pyramid model" which was never something that anyone thought was a good model.

The actions of the council show that a lot of them are not considerate of the residents - they often are more interested in their pet peeves rather than looking at what's best for all. Example - requesting several studies on the Frome Bikeway because they didn't like the conclusions of the first ones.

[crawf]

At tonight's council meeting Anne Moran is proposing council takes back development controls. I hope this motion is not passed or we would be undoing significant progress made in streamlining large developments.

I hope Rau tells Moran exactly where to go with this proposal ...

I don't see any problem with these recommendations, in fact I think they are quite logical. You people seem to be so caught up in all of the development taking place in this city to overlook the fact that so many poor quality developments have seen approval, furthermore, so many developments have gone up or will go up in places that are simply not suited to such height.

You must have a short memory. There were plenty of average proposals that were given the tick of approval by the ACC, including the hideous trash on Hindley Street formally known as 'Octagon Student Apartments' and the delightful 'Precinct' apartments on Morphett Street. The dumbing down of 199 North Terrace also springs to mind.

The State Government taking full control was one of the best things that has ever happened in this city. The quantity and quality of developments has vastly improved, and as a result the city skyline is about to undergo it's biggest overhaul in decades. That's not saying all developments approved by the DAC have been wonderful, though it's far better compared to the ACC days.

The ACC's plan would be a huge step back for Adelaide's progress.

[mshagg]

At tonight's council meeting Anne Moran is proposing council takes back development controls. I hope this motion is not passed or we would be undoing significant progress made in streamlining large developments.

I hope Rau tells Moran exactly where to go with this proposal ...

I don't see any problem with these recommendations, in fact I think they are quite logical. You people seem to be so caught up in all of the development taking place in this city to overlook the fact that so many poor quality developments have seen approval, furthermore, so many developments have gone up or will go up in places that are simply not suited to such height.

Including a certain development on Frome Street no doubt...

Council has shown no sign that they appreciate their custodianship of the city is done on behalf of all south australians, not just a handful of landlords and NIMBY residents. I see no reason why they deserve to have their training wheels removed.