News & Discussion: Trams

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1906 Post by EBG » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:34 am

This could be the reason for the single track section by the Student apartment building. The mobile crane is taking down the tower crane today. It is supported only by the outrigger jacks which are where the second track would be located. All the crane wheels are off the ground.
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#1907 Post by rubberman » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:28 pm

Up got the barricades!
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1908 Post by Eurostar » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:52 pm

rubberman wrote:
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Up got the barricades!20171022_134744_resized.jpg
Services that stop at A1 should just be directed to B1 and maybe services that stop at A2/A3 should be directed to stop b2

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1909 Post by HeapsGood » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:57 am

Do you think perhaps that Labor will announce as an election sweetener to extend the tram out to Adelaide Oval?
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#1910 Post by Llessur2002 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:24 am

HeapsGood wrote:Do you think perhaps that Labor will announce as an election sweetener to extend the tram out to Adelaide Oval?
Nah I reckon that's too small for an election announcement. I reckon they'd be more likely to announce the Parade extension, or possibly the airport line.

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#1911 Post by HeapsGood » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:43 am

Small sure, not sure if the east link is budgeted yet. But a lot of footy fans would be happy by the extension to the oval.
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#1912 Post by Kasey771 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:43 pm

Llessur2002 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:24 am
HeapsGood wrote:Do you think perhaps that Labor will announce as an election sweetener to extend the tram out to Adelaide Oval?
Nah I reckon that's too small for an election announcement. I reckon they'd be more likely to announce the Parade extension, or possibly the airport line.
from a usefulness POV, completing the City Loop would be better IMO. Taking it out to Norwood is going to release all the " The Parade is too narrow! and what about the on-street parking? " :wallbash: :wallbash: whingers.

A city loop would prossibly have fewer visible opponents, making it a much better porkbarrel leading in to the election.
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1913 Post by Patrick_27 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:52 pm

I'd say either a city loop or North Adelaide extension (inc. Adelaide Oval). Though, an extension out to the Parade or Unley would certainly be something to pitch to voters of two very safe Liberal seats. Who knows? I would say that these works however are merely a catalyst for an imminent announcement. Gets voters thinking: "Well, it now makes sense to extend the line to Adelaide Oval or the Parade having done all of this."

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#1914 Post by monotonehell » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:14 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:52 pm
I'd say either a city loop or North Adelaide extension (inc. Adelaide Oval). Though, an extension out to the Parade or Unley would certainly be something to pitch to voters of two very safe Liberal seats. Who knows? I would say that these works however are merely a catalyst for an imminent announcement. Gets voters thinking: "Well, it now makes sense to extend the line to Adelaide Oval or the Parade having done all of this."
I would think that the majority of people who live in Norwood would be the 4wd-vehicle-single-occupant type who would react negatively to any more "traffic disruptions" and wouldn't go near public transport even if it was very good. This is just my opinion, I could be wrong, but speaking and working with people in that demographic this seems to be the attitude.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1915 Post by Norman » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:23 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Patrick_27 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:52 pm
I'd say either a city loop or North Adelaide extension (inc. Adelaide Oval). Though, an extension out to the Parade or Unley would certainly be something to pitch to voters of two very safe Liberal seats. Who knows? I would say that these works however are merely a catalyst for an imminent announcement. Gets voters thinking: "Well, it now makes sense to extend the line to Adelaide Oval or the Parade having done all of this."
I would think that the majority of people who live in Norwood would be the 4wd-vehicle-single-occupant type who would react negatively to any more "traffic disruptions" and wouldn't go near public transport even if it was very good. This is just my opinion, I could be wrong, but speaking and working with people in that demographic this seems to be the attitude.
There are also a lot of young renters in that area, as well as shoppers who would like easier access to the Parade. Then there are also the international students which live in the inner east. It's actually a very mixed area.

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#1916 Post by monotonehell » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:24 pm

Norman wrote:
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There are also a lot of young renters in that area, as well as shoppers who would like easier access to the Parade. Then there are also the international students which live in the inner east. It's actually a very mixed area.
How many of them vote? ;)
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#1917 Post by ml69 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:41 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:52 pm
I'd say either a city loop or North Adelaide extension (inc. Adelaide Oval). Though, an extension out to the Parade or Unley would certainly be something to pitch to voters of two very safe Liberal seats. Who knows? I would say that these works however are merely a catalyst for an imminent announcement. Gets voters thinking: "Well, it now makes sense to extend the line to Adelaide Oval or the Parade having done all of this."
City loop would be the best bang for buck investment ... it would turbo-charge apartment development demand in the CBD ever further (look at what has happened on KW South since the tram extension) and CBD workers, tourists, day visitors, students and residents would all benefit on a daily basis. The benefits are spread more widely than just people from a particular area (Parade, Airport or wherever) being serviced by the tram.
However, politicians are not likely to see it from this perspective .... the thinking will be "let's propose a line where we think it will win us the most seats".

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1918 Post by Goodsy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:04 pm

Llessur2002 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:24 am
HeapsGood wrote:Do you think perhaps that Labor will announce as an election sweetener to extend the tram out to Adelaide Oval?
Nah I reckon that's too small for an election announcement. I reckon they'd be more likely to announce the Parade extension, or possibly the airport line.
I thought their election promise in 2013 was funding for the entire network, it will probably be the same this time around

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#1919 Post by Norman » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:13 pm

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1920 Post by Llessur2002 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:56 am

GoodSmackUp wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:04 pm
Llessur2002 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:24 am
HeapsGood wrote:Do you think perhaps that Labor will announce as an election sweetener to extend the tram out to Adelaide Oval?
Nah I reckon that's too small for an election announcement. I reckon they'd be more likely to announce the Parade extension, or possibly the airport line.
I thought their election promise in 2013 was funding for the entire network, it will probably be the same this time around
Are we talking about federal Labor or state Labor?

State I imagine we *might* get a promise of an extension to the Parade, airport or, less likely, Prospect. An interesting curve ball would be extending the KWS line up past the Oval into North Adelaide. That would work wonders for making North Adelaide a bit more accessible but I don't think it's high on their priority or vote-winning list.

Federal Labor did make a pledge before the 2016 federal election to contribute $500M towards a 'major expansion' of the AdeLink network if they won. It would be great if they repeated the pledge at the next election but I'm not sure about the specifics of the funding - i.e. the actual funding arrangement could have been $500M over 30 years or something. It would be good to get at least one new line out of it in the short term though.

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