News & Discussion: Public Transport Contracts, Service & Policy

[mshagg]

Massive upshot from the changes to bus stops along Grenfell and Currie is they've finally moved the taxi rank from in front of 25 Grenfell. It's a bus stop now.

So hopefully no more taxis queuing across the pedestrian crossing, or mounting the footpath trying to tuck in to the end of the queue, and far less incessant horn blowing from bus drivers who are irate about taxis blocking the bus lane whilst they wrangle themselves into the space.

[Mr Messy]

Massive upshot from the changes to bus stops along Grenfell and Currie is they've finally moved the taxi rank from in front of 25 Grenfell. It's a bus stop now.

So hopefully no more taxis queuing across the pedestrian crossing, or mounting the footpath trying to tuck in to the end of the queue, and far less incessant horn blowing from bus drivers who are irate about taxis blocking the bus lane whilst they wrangle themselves into the space.

The problem with the taxis there is the rank is signposted to hold 7. The honking usually only happens when they try to jam in 8

[adelaide transport]

King William Street/North Terrace intersection will now be closed until first service Monday 22nd January 2018.

[Norman]

King William Street/North Terrace intersection will now be closed until first service Monday 22nd January 2018.

Not quite, only the tram will be affected by the extra week.

[rev]

Public transport projects co-ordinated to avoid traffic chaos under SA Liberals

PUBLIC transport projects would be better co-ordinated to avoid the sort of disruption currently being suffered by commuters, should the Liberal Party win the next state election.

Opposition transport spokesman David Pisoni’s pledge comes as commuters on Tuesday navigate the first work day of the 15-day closure of North Tce and King William St to cope with the Stage 4 works for the $80 million tram extension project.

The Transport Department has warned commuters to prepare for delays from this morning and to stay away from North Tce.

Mr Pisoni said that if elected this year, a Liberal Government would “better co-ordinate public transport projects to avoid unnecessary inconvenience for commuters and cost blowouts for taxpayers”.

“The fact the Weatherill Government will close the Grange and Outer Harbor train lines and the tram line to the Entertainment Centre at the same time is testimony to Labor’s increasing incompetence,” he said.

The Opposition has campaigned heavily against a decision by the State Government not to incorporate a right-hand turn into the North Tce tram extension.

Buses will replace trams and timetable changes between Victoria Square and the Entertainment Centre until January 22, but many scheduled buses will have to make detours until the intersection reopens for them and cars from January 15.

The disruption comes after buses last week were forced to work to Sunday timetables despite the post-Christmas sales rush to the city.

Projects have also forced disruption to the exit of the Adelaide Railway Station, disruption has been caused by the O-Bahn extension, rail line upgrades at Park Tce at Bowden, and changes to timetables and bus-stops in the city, which were also not well received.

Many of the roadworks and changes to public transport are culminating in time for the March state election, leading to accusations that the State Government has timed the disruption so that it can maximise public exposure for new projects at this time.

The State Government has said the no-right turn for trams at North Tce was because car traffic flow would be too disrupted.

Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan has repeatedly defended the decision saying it gets “the balance right” between maintaining traffic flow through the intersection and running very high frequency services along North Tce to the East End.

But Mr Pisoni said: “The tram’s right-hand turn into North Tce was abandoned because it didn’t suit Labor political imperative to have a ribbon-cutting ceremony on the extension to the old RAH site before the March state election’’.

A Transport Department spokeswoman said the works at the intersection would happen around the clock to minimise disruption as much as possible and that the closure was scheduled at a time when traffic was traditionally quieter.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sa-electi ... 60d8d3e37b


HAHAHAHAHA are they serious?

[Norman]

I'm still waiting to see any policy from the Liberals and Nick Xenophon. Surely they must offer something more than "Globe Link"...

[rev]

It’s funny the Libs are accusing the government of playing politics with the PT projects to time them with the election..
Perhaps they are, they probably are.
But what are the Libs doing? Aren’t they playing politics?

When would the ideal time be to close the King William/North tce intersection be for Marshal? The answer is it wouldn’t be closed because a government lead by him wouldn’t invest in much pt let alone a tram network.

They complain so many projects are happening at once.
And then talk about traffic chaos as a result, and how they’d somehow manage it all better. So they think there’s too much going on at once.
Yet if the government had done one project at a time, they’d be complaining about that causing years and years and years of traffic chaos.
They’d complain the Obahn was being done during the festival season, this disrupting it.

So isn’t the logical thing to do, get as many projects running at once and finished, to create a shorter period of disruption?

[Eurostar]

In 2000 the SA Liberal Party decided to continue the privatization of bus services. At the time there was only Serco and TransAdelaide (which is government anyway), they could of easily cancelled contract with Serco and had public owned and operated public transport in Adelaide. But no they privatised our bus system more by allowing Torrens Transit and Southlink to run bus services.

We didn't get new trams until SA Labor Party took over.

We didn't get new trains until SA Labor Party took over.

The Adelaide Metro Rail System was falling apart with derailments coming more and more possible.

[Kasey771]

Public transport projects co-ordinated to avoid traffic chaos under SA Liberals

PUBLIC transport projects would be better co-ordinated to avoid the sort of disruption currently being suffered by commuters, should the Liberal Party win the next state election.

Opposition transport spokesman David Pisoni’s pledge comes as commuters on Tuesday navigate the first work day of the 15-day closure of North Tce and King William St to cope with the Stage 4 works for the $80 million tram extension project.

The Transport Department has warned commuters to prepare for delays from this morning and to stay away from North Tce.

Mr Pisoni said that if elected this year, a Liberal Government would “better co-ordinate public transport projects to avoid unnecessary inconvenience for commuters and cost blowouts for taxpayers”.

“The fact the Weatherill Government will close the Grange and Outer Harbor train lines and the tram line to the Entertainment Centre at the same time is testimony to Labor’s increasing incompetence,” he said.

The Opposition has campaigned heavily against a decision by the State Government not to incorporate a right-hand turn into the North Tce tram extension.

Buses will replace trams and timetable changes between Victoria Square and the Entertainment Centre until January 22, but many scheduled buses will have to make detours until the intersection reopens for them and cars from January 15.

The disruption comes after buses last week were forced to work to Sunday timetables despite the post-Christmas sales rush to the city.

Projects have also forced disruption to the exit of the Adelaide Railway Station, disruption has been caused by the O-Bahn extension, rail line upgrades at Park Tce at Bowden, and changes to timetables and bus-stops in the city, which were also not well received.

Many of the roadworks and changes to public transport are culminating in time for the March state election, leading to accusations that the State Government has timed the disruption so that it can maximise public exposure for new projects at this time.

The State Government has said the no-right turn for trams at North Tce was because car traffic flow would be too disrupted.

Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan has repeatedly defended the decision saying it gets “the balance right” between maintaining traffic flow through the intersection and running very high frequency services along North Tce to the East End.

But Mr Pisoni said: “The tram’s right-hand turn into North Tce was abandoned because it didn’t suit Labor political imperative to have a ribbon-cutting ceremony on the extension to the old RAH site before the March state election’’.

A Transport Department spokeswoman said the works at the intersection would happen around the clock to minimise disruption as much as possible and that the closure was scheduled at a time when traffic was traditionally quieter.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sa-electi ... 60d8d3e37b


HAHAHAHAHA are they serious?

With no Policy released for PT my guess is they intend to reduce disruptions by not actually building or improving anything. That's a NO from me.

[[Shuz]]

This is the sort of empty promise policy announcement as they won't actually make any improvements to public transport, ergo, there won't be any disruptions.

How is it that after 16 years in opposition, they still can't get fundamental policy making right? What a joke.

[ChillyPhilly]

In 2000 the SA Liberal Party decided to continue the privatization of bus services. At the time there was only Serco and TransAdelaide (which is government anyway), they could of easily cancelled contract with Serco and had public owned and operated public transport in Adelaide. But no they privatised our bus system more by allowing Torrens Transit and Southlink to run bus services.

We didn't get new trams until SA Labor Party took over.

We didn't get new trains until SA Labor Party took over.

The Adelaide Metro Rail System was falling apart with derailments coming more and more possible.

Buses are a PPP (public-private partnership). The State Government provides the buses and sets the timetables and routes while the bus companies supply the drivers.

[Norman]

Most of the real-time arrival screens along Grenfell and Currie Street are now live.

[I Follow PAFC]

From https://www.facebook.com/NRMPortAdelaide/
SA Govt media announcement at the National Railway Museum this morning - Ministers Susan Close and Stephen Mullighan - $16m contract signed for construction of the new Port Dock Adelaide Metro line extension and new railway station. Work to start in June and completion around March 2019.

[ChillyPhilly]

Does our Metrocard, despite being comparatively far newer, also face an uncertain future?

'Opal cards in Sydney, Myki cards in Melbourne and Go Cards in Brisbane - which have collectively cost taxpayers $2.8billion - may face a slow death with trials for contactless bank card payments set for 2019, according to the Daily Telegraph.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... cards.html

[PeFe]

The use of credit cards replacing "smart transport cards" comes with a few issues if it follows the London example.

If you have a British issued credit card, then "tap and go" on the buses and tube works fine........

However if you have a non-British issued credit card, then you need to check the "acceptable" cards list on the TFL website.

I did not attempt to use my (Australian issued) Visa card on the tube etc, because even if I was successful, my Australian bank would charge me a
international money transfer fee every time I "tapped", so I stuck with trusty reliable Oyster.

For international tourists a smart card (getting the cheapest fares) will be option number one, unless all international transfer fees are eliminated.

For Australia, yes, the use of smart transport cards like Opal, Go, myki and MetroCard will decline, but I doubt they will disappear all together.

Not everyone has a credit card, and not everyone "believes" in the the "tap" culture, where having the actual money seems unnecessary.