News & Discussion: General CBD Development

[Mpol03]

Oh wow thanks for clarifying guys I really appreciate it. Here’s hoping the new development is a solid one, considering the location.

[Algernon]

Article in the tiser has something about the new womens and kids hospital. Apparently there's some cold feet about colocating the new hospital with the new RAH because of space/flight path concerns. The mooted alternatives are the police barracks over the railway, the slim lot on the torrens over the railway (by the bridge) or the whole block of buildings on the corner of north and west terraces (i.e. newmarket hotel et al.) They suggest the latter to be disadvantageous because of the heritage buildings on site. I dunno. Anyone who's seen their mrs go through labour would be all for having a pub next door.

[Patrick_27]

Article in the tiser has something about the new womens and kids hospital. Apparently there's some cold feet about colocating the new hospital with the new RAH because of space/flight path concerns. The mooted alternatives are the police barracks over the railway, the slim lot on the torrens over the railway (by the bridge) or the whole block of buildings on the corner of north and west terraces (i.e. newmarket hotel et al.) They suggest the latter to be disadvantageous because of the heritage buildings on site. I dunno. Anyone who's seen their mrs go through labour would be all for having a pub next door.

There is a thread for this somewhere. I call BS on this, though. Perhaps space is an issue (which is why Labor might have downgraded their proposal to just a Women's hospital on the site) but the existing proposal was the exact same height as the new RAH. But there are ways of working with the site allocated - you could build over the railway lines to incorporate that triangle parcel of land that sits between all of the train tracks for example.

[The Scooter Guy]

Anyone found a new way to bypass paywall?
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[Goodsy]

Anyone found a new way to bypass paywall?
http://click.e.advertiser.com.au/?qs=1a ... 464bf2f011

Yep

Plans for new $100m tower on Adelaide Metro
JWDT website proposes 60-storey tower in Adelaide CBD
Adelaide’s tallest building: Court action against neighbouring student accommodation

A PROPOSED tower that would be Adelaide’s tallest is still on the cards.

In 2017, the Sunday Mail revealed that a company called JWDT was touting a close-to-200m high, 60-storey tower with conference centre, a high-end boutique hotel and city skyline apartments on its website.

The building, previously referred to as the “Dominator 1”, was originally touted as 230m in height but Adelaide Airport’s Procedures for Air Navigation Services means it would be 195m high — far exceeding the under-construction Adelaidean which will stand at 135m.

Last week a 132.4m high hotel, apartment and office building on the northern corner of Currie St and King William St was approved by the State Commission Assessment Panel — which will sit as Adelaide’s second-tallest building when it is completed.

Our current tallest building is the 31-storey Westpac House which stands at 132 metres high.

While it is still a while away from being assessed by SCAP, there is speculation that JWDT’s has moved into the pre-lodgement phase where proponents and key decision-makers such as the Government Architect “work together” to streamline development applications to find out if they stack up or not.

A Department of Planning Transport and Infrastructure spokesman said the service was confidential and the department could not comment on whether a site has an application in the pre-lodgement phase.

Over the phone and in a email, a staff member from JWDT told The Advertiser that they were “still preparing the project”.


Could this be the building that'll dominate Adelaide's skyline?

The Advertiser has been told member from behind the proposal have also been approaching members of the State Government and the state’s Property Council over the past couple of months.

It is understood a lobbyist for the consortium approached the Property Council last week offering to give a briefing about the current status of the proposal.

When details of the proposal first emerged, a key potential roadblock to the lofty ambitions was the operations and safety requirements of the Adelaide Airport.

Any building that intrudes into Adelaide Airports “protected airspace” requires approval and The Advertiser understands that the airport has said a 195m building in the city would not necessarily be ruled out by the airport’s requirements.

Property records show a company named JWDT Land paid $11.6 million to buy lots 207-209 Pulteney St, at the Flinders St intersection, from Australian Datong Investment and Development in September, 2016.
Video fly-through of 3D model of Adelaide CBD skyline

Datong built the Aria apartments on Gouger St and was developing the U2 apartment project on Waymouth St until it ran into cash problems and was unable to keep up with repayments.

The U2 site was subsequently put up for sale by North Adelaide-based CEG Securities.

JWDT Land also owns the property at 101 Grenfell St, between Wyatt and Chesser streets.

[The Scooter Guy]

Before 1988, the Grenfell Centre (Black Stump) was the tallest.

[EBG]

Post Tensioned Floors.
Post tensioning of flooring is a means of strengthening concrete floors without making the floor thicker or adding more columns to support the floor. It involves the following steps.
1. At the reinforcing stage hollow metal tubes are laid out in a grid pattern along the length and width of the floor in a grid pattern. These tubes can be either circular or a flattened rectangular shape.
2. The tubes are not perfectly horizontal but tend to rise towards the bottom of the concrete slab mid span between the supporting columns and move down towards the top of the slab over the columns. This is to lift the floor up mid span and pull it down over the columns.
3. Steel cables are inserted into each tube and are anchored at one end to a metal plate with a short length (about 1 metre) hanging out at the other end.
4. The rest of the normal reinforcement is then added and the concrete slab is poured.
5. Once the concrete floor has gained minimum strength the free end of the cable is tension up with a hydraulic jack and locked in place. Hence the term “Post tensioned”.
6. 6rout is then injected into the cable tube and the ends of the cables are trimmed off and the cable anchors are finished off with concrete to match the floor edges.
Post tensioned floors allow wider spans between adjacent columns and in some cases thinner floor slabs. Note the actual jacking is carried out when no other workers are present since should a cable snap when being tensioned it could break through the floor surface.
The plans of all structures with post tensioned floors must have their blue prints marked as such so that proper care can be taken in the event of them being demolished.
The following projects are using Post tensioned floors: GPO, Realm and 179 Greenhill Rd Parkside.

For more details see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFBSV5y-fEg

Circular cable ducts at realm.






 

[EBG]

I tried to add several pictures but I will add them one at a time. left roll of post tensioning cable , flat cable ducts and reinforcement to hold ducts in place Picture at realm 18/8/2018

[EBG]

picture by shiftaling shows post tension ducts laid out in grid at GPO project.

[EBG]

the free end of cables at 179 Greenhill Rd project 18/8/2018

[EBG]

The patched anchor points of the ducts at the GPO project.
18.8/2018

[timtam20292]

Does anyone know what works are being done next to the train tracks? Photo to follow shortly.

[Llessur2002]

Does anyone know what works are being done next to the train tracks? Photo to follow shortly.

You mean the ones discussed here?

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... ek#p169573

[timtam20292]

Does anyone know what works are being done next to the train tracks? Photo to follow shortly.

You mean the ones discussed here?

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... ek#p169573

Yeah I reckon that’s it

[Llessur2002]

I wondered how long it would be before this site got sold for development. I feel for City Beach and hope they get a nice new spot, but this is too prime a site for volleyball.

City Beach volleyball complex being marketed for sale to international developers

THE City Beach volleyball complex is being marketed for sale to private developers, once again casting doubt over the sport’s future in the CBD.

Adelaide City Council has been actively shopping the site at the corner of Frome and Pirie streets as an “investment opportunity” to local and international buyers.

The move has shocked one councillor, who said the decision to market the property before elected members had voted to sell it was a “huge insult”.

The City Council’s growth director, Ian Hill, said it wanted “to exercise its right to explore the option” of selling the 1569sq m site, which has been leased to Volleyball SA on a “heavily subsidised arrangement” for the past 17 years.

Mr Hill said no decision had been made to sell the land.

However, the council’s new Adelaide Investment Prospectus, a document which Lord Mayor Martin Haese presented to potential investors during a trip to Singapore in July, stated the parcel would be “released” in 2019.

The corner block was suitable for “medium to high-density living”, according to the prospectus.

The council has been keen to sell four-court volleyball complex since at least 2011.

The main sticking point has been finding a new location for Volleyball SA, which runs competitions at City Beach.

Mr Hill said the council would work closely with the sporting body to find an “alternative site within the City of Adelaide”.

Volleyball SA general manager Anne-Marie McAinsh said it would be an “absolute disaster” if the sport was unable to find a new home in the city, a location she argued was crucial given most recreational players were CBD-based workers and students.

Ms McAinsh this year approached Renewal SA about establishing a beach volleyball complex at Pinky Flat, near Adelaide Oval, and at the site of the old Royal Adelaide Hospital.

Neither proposals have progressed.

Park 25, next to the SACA building on Port Rd, was now the “best site”, she said.

Ms McAinsh said the sport was “resigned” to leaving City Beach, emphasising the council had been “very clear in its intentions” to one day sell the prime CBD site.

But Cr Phil Martin was this week shocked to learn the council was shopping around the land before elected members had voted to sell it.

The Advertiser understands councillors have held confidential discussions about the future of the City Beach site, but the matter was far from resolved.

“It is a huge insult that we, the elected members, have been left in the dark,” Cr Martin said.

“The utter contempt that the administration of this organisation holds for its elected members is extraordinary.”

Cr Martin said Mr Haese needed to come clean about his knowledge of any potential sale, particularly because the site was included in the prospectus presented at the Singapore meeting.

Mr Haese told The Advertiser that there was “no formal process in place at this stage” to sell the property.

But he noted that City Beach was always intended as a “temporary use” for the property, which was not achieving “its commercial potential” as a beach volleyball complex.

From: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenge ... 8cfa2f4619