News & Discussion: Trams

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3496 Post by Norman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pm

The promise of the City South tram stop being renewed has been in the budget twice before, and nothing has been done. Hopefully they will actually build it this time around...

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#3497 Post by skyliner » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:21 pm

I note here the absence of funding for the north terrace right hand turn! Interesting - the Libs have left it out it seems. Maybe I have reacted too soon.

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#3498 Post by Norman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:31 pm

skyliner wrote:I note here the absence of funding for the north terrace right hand turn! Interesting - the Libs have left it out it seems. Maybe I have reacted too soon.

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It is in the budget actually. $37m was allocated for the project.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3499 Post by claybro » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:37 pm

Norman wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pm
The promise of the City South tram stop being renewed has been in the budget twice before, and nothing has been done. Hopefully they will actually build it this time around...
Careful what you wish for. Rectification to the new North Terrace stops are evidently part of the reason the whole stretch is rendered unfit for public use months after the track were laid. It will be interesting how much disruption will occur at the Southern end.

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#3500 Post by SRW » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:19 pm

$600,000 for yet another business study on the city loop? How many have been done so far and what justifies another? Wish they just bite the bullet and put that money towards detailed plans.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3501 Post by Norman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:49 pm

claybro wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:37 pm
Norman wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pm
The promise of the City South tram stop being renewed has been in the budget twice before, and nothing has been done. Hopefully they will actually build it this time around...
Careful what you wish for. Rectification to the new North Terrace stops are evidently part of the reason the whole stretch is rendered unfit for public use months after the track were laid. It will be interesting how much disruption will occur at the Southern end.
Building a new line and upgrading an existing line's stop and track are two very different things.

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#3502 Post by Waewick » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:54 pm

SRW wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:19 pm
$600,000 for yet another business study on the city loop? How many have been done so far and what justifies another? Wish they just bite the bullet and put that money towards detailed plans.
I guess they haven't done it on theirs.

We have two options I guess, their loop or their North Adelaide Extension? or wait, Three - no trams :(

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3503 Post by rubberman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 pm

claybro wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:37 pm
Norman wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pm
The promise of the City South tram stop being renewed has been in the budget twice before, and nothing has been done. Hopefully they will actually build it this time around...
Careful what you wish for. Rectification to the new North Terrace stops are evidently part of the reason the whole stretch is rendered unfit for public use months after the track were laid. It will be interesting how much disruption will occur at the Southern end.
I wonder if they consulted with Melbourne on this?

Usually when track gets like it is in King Wm St Sth, Melbourne usually welds up the dished joints, grinds off the corrugations, cuts out and re-concretes the loose bits.

If they did consult with Melbourne and it was deemed necessary to relay the line, I hope they will use Whyalla rail, and not the imported stuff. Why use overseas gear when SA produced stuff does an equally good job. I'm serious. Standard grooved tram rail is only needed on curves.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3504 Post by crawf » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:02 pm

Norman wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pm
The promise of the City South tram stop being renewed has been in the budget twice before, and nothing has been done. Hopefully they will actually build it this time around...
That was under Labor though

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3505 Post by ChillyPhilly » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:17 pm

Llessur2002 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:51 pm
The Libs have allocated $600,000 in today's budget to investigate expanding of tram services in the CBD. The budget also allocates $3.7M towards the the renewal of the City South Tram stop and $7.9M for replacing the tracks between Victoria Square and South Terrace.
I can't help but feel cynical about that 'investigation', especially $600k to do it.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3506 Post by Norman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:18 pm

crawf wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:02 pm
Norman wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pm
The promise of the City South tram stop being renewed has been in the budget twice before, and nothing has been done. Hopefully they will actually build it this time around...
That was under Labor though
Sure, but the department management is pretty much the same though. I don't know where the holdup was.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3507 Post by how good is he » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:20 pm

Can anyone explain how upgrading the City South tram stop can cost $3.7m (from today’s budget)?

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3508 Post by crawf » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:57 pm

I'd like to see some real time info screens placed at all the city and major stops.

Cannot understand why this wasn't included with the new extension. Yet the former Labor Government introduced them at major bus stops.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3509 Post by Norman » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:04 am

crawf wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:57 pm
I'd like to see some real time info screens placed at all the city and major stops.

Cannot understand why this wasn't included with the new extension. Yet the former Labor Government introduced them at major bus stops.
This... 100%.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3510 Post by rubberman » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:10 am

how good is he wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:20 pm
Can anyone explain how upgrading the City South tram stop can cost $3.7m (from today’s budget)?
You could build five houses for that much. I'd also question the need to relay track there too.

I mean, take $37.5m, plus save $3m here, plus just do a 20 year overhaul on the track (like Melbourne does) and save $7m. That's $47.5m. They could put that to extending the tram from the Botanic Gardens to Hutt Street, or from Riverside to Adelaide Children's Hospital.

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