News & Discussion: Trams

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3736 Post by Norman » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:18 pm

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Is the voice announcer the same guy from the planes announcements. Also I don't see why we got to be told what side of the tram to get off, we got by fine for over a century
It's common practice in metro systems all over the world now. Adelaide is just following the trend.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3737 Post by Nathan » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:40 pm

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Considering half the stops in the city you get out on the right, and the other half now on the left, it's a sensible thing to do.
Yes, announcing which side the doors open is fine. It's the "in the direction of travel" tacked on afterwards that's redundant.
what does it actually mean? when you get off you are suppose to walk towards the front of the tram?
They say "Exit on the left, in the direction of travel", as if people would be confused which side is left or right and need clarification that it's relative to facing towards the front.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3738 Post by Brucetiki » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:18 am

Norman wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:18 pm
Eurostar wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:28 pm
Is the voice announcer the same guy from the planes announcements. Also I don't see why we got to be told what side of the tram to get off, we got by fine for over a century
It's common practice in metro systems all over the world now. Adelaide is just following the trend.
Yep - Melbourne's and Gold Coast's trams announce this, as do the Brisbane's suburban trains (only difference for Brisbane trains is that the guard makes the announcement).

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3739 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:13 pm

Nathan wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:40 pm
Goodsy wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:53 pm
Nathan wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:50 pm


Yes, announcing which side the doors open is fine. It's the "in the direction of travel" tacked on afterwards that's redundant.
what does it actually mean? when you get off you are suppose to walk towards the front of the tram?
They say "Exit on the left, in the direction of travel", as if people would be confused which side is left or right and need clarification that it's relative to facing towards the front.
When you've had a few to drink it comes in handy!
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3740 Post by Norman » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:56 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:13 pm
Nathan wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:40 pm
They say "Exit on the left, in the direction of travel", as if people would be confused which side is left or right and need clarification that it's relative to facing towards the front.
When you've had a few to drink it comes in handy!
Or for the blind... but I guess that's almost the same thing.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3741 Post by rubberman » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:38 pm

I noticed the trams weren't running to the Festival Plaza stop.

There's a big festival on tonight, so I assume they will be running by then, right?

I mean, big event, tram stop right there, surely they will run.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3742 Post by Norman » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:02 pm

No, the stop was closed for the entire day

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3743 Post by EBG » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:55 pm

And night .

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3744 Post by timtam20292 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:41 pm

I wonder why? :?:

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3745 Post by Norman » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 am

timtam20292 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:41 pm
I wonder why? :?:
Elder Park would have been packed to the brim at night. Too dangerous to have trams there with that many people.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3746 Post by timtam20292 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:44 am

Norman wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:41 pm
I wonder why? :?:
Elder Park would have been packed to the brim at night. Too dangerous to have trams there with that many people.
Fair enough but what about when trams eventually run into North Adelaide?

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3747 Post by crawf » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:32 am

Norman wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:41 pm
I wonder why? :?:
Elder Park would have been packed to the brim at night. Too dangerous to have trams there with that many people.
What was the point of building that extension if they can't even open it for events at Elder Park?. I thought that was the reasoning behind this extension.

P.S not an attack on you Norman

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3748 Post by Eurostar » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:41 am

Norman wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:41 pm
I wonder why? :?:
Elder Park would have been packed to the brim at night. Too dangerous to have trams there with that many people.
Federation Square in Melbourne is busy everyday , the nearby tramstop has many crowds and its fine. More like the government making excuse to save money.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3749 Post by ginzahikari » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:42 am

timtam20292 wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:44 am
Norman wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:41 pm
I wonder why? :?:
Elder Park would have been packed to the brim at night. Too dangerous to have trams there with that many people.
Fair enough but what about when trams eventually run into North Adelaide?
Some food carts were placed on King William Road. It's reasonable since the road is closed to all traffic except for buses.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#3750 Post by rubberman » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:23 am

Eurostar wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:41 am
Norman wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:41 pm
I wonder why? :?:
Elder Park would have been packed to the brim at night. Too dangerous to have trams there with that many people.
Federation Square in Melbourne is busy everyday , the nearby tramstop has many crowds and its fine. More like the government making excuse to save money.
It might be that. It could also be that SA really has very low expertise in tram operations. This is not to reflect poorly on staff who obviously try hard, but is merely the result of having a system that's too small to build up expertise in what is a complicated area, but a really small part of Adelaide Metro.

There are so many signs of this around, and this is just another. IF this was Melbourne, we'd have the size of tramway to enable employment of staff who can understand and handle all of the problems that seem to stump people here.

It's also an argument for a larger system that could justify having the expertise here. At the moment, we really have people who are good at operating a standard single line. However, when it comes to special operations, tram extensions, major maintenance, they neither know what to do, nor who to ask.

I emphasise that I don't mean that as a criticism. Asking operations people to do these things is like asking a good car driver to build a car. Just because someone can drive a car, and even drive it well, it doesn't mean they can do major maintenance, nor build a new car from scratch. That's what Adelaide Metro gets tasked with, and if the truth is told, are probably doing better than most for having been thrown in the deep end.

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