[U/C] M2 North-South Motorway

[neoballmon]

Landscaping in Darlington already seems have commenced this werk. The northbound lanes between Sturt Road and the Sutton/Mimosa bridge (or slightly north) already has some irrigation pipes laid and soil. This is adjacent the inner surface lanes in a small section where the final concrete barrier is in place.
I haven't noticed this in any other area though yet.

[Patrick_27]

In Adelaide the verges are maintained by the adjacent landowner. All the council does is come along every few months and mow down any grass\weeds which have got ridiculously high.

If you're speaking in a legal sense, it's actually not a landowners job to maintain the verge outside of their property. If they wish to do so, great. If they want to take ownership of how it looks (i.e. laying grass, planting shrubs, etc) then yes, they must take responsibility for it. However, if you choose not to touch the verge outside your house, it's not your problem. I live in Colonel Light Gardens and the council spend tens of thousands a year regularly maintaining the grass verges, any additional planting around the base of the trees on the verge (quite common) or establishing an irrigation system (also quite common) is up to the adjacent landowner otherwise, not our problem.

[rev]

In Adelaide the verges are maintained by the adjacent landowner. All the council does is come along every few months and mow down any grass\weeds which have got ridiculously high.

If you're speaking in a legal sense, it's actually not a landowners job to maintain the verge outside of their property. If they wish to do so, great. If they want to take ownership of how it looks (i.e. laying grass, planting shrubs, etc) then yes, they must take responsibility for it. However, if you choose not to touch the verge outside your house, it's not your problem. I live in Colonel Light Gardens and the council spend tens of thousands a year regularly maintaining the grass verges, any additional planting around the base of the trees on the verge (quite common) or establishing an irrigation system (also quite common) is up to the adjacent landowner otherwise, not our problem.

And in Westwood all the verges have sprinkler systems installed that are linked back into the property as part of the landscaping that came with the house and land packages. Whose responsibility is it now?

[claybro]

Houses on Cross Road in Clarence Park are at least 500K.

Connecting to the freeway via Greenhill Road and Portrush Road/Glen Osmond Road I feel would be easier and more affordable than the Cross Road option.

Given this route is slightly longer by about 1.5KM and would require either significant tunnelling to negotiate the Greenhill /Portrush road corner or an interchange that would wipe out most of Burnside, I find this route highly unlikely to even be considered. Given the large amount of government owned land through Urrbrae, that leaves about 320 individual properties along Cross road to Emerson. This includes both sides of the road. Even at an average price of $700000 would require about $220 Million. Significant but not a deal breaker, when compared to kilometres of tunnelling.

[ml69]

Houses on Cross Road in Clarence Park are at least 500K.

Connecting to the freeway via Greenhill Road and Portrush Road/Glen Osmond Road I feel would be easier and more affordable than the Cross Road option.

Given this route is slightly longer by about 1.5KM and would require either significant tunnelling to negotiate the Greenhill /Portrush road corner or an interchange that would wipe out most of Burnside, I find this route highly unlikely to even be considered. Given the large amount of government owned land through Urrbrae, that leaves about 320 individual properties along Cross road to Emerson. This includes both sides of the road. Even at an average price of $700000 would require about $220 Million. Significant but not a deal breaker, when compared to kilometres of tunnelling.

I agree. Clearly the best option. But potentially 20 years away I reckon.

[Vasco]

Just in from DPTI fb page;

The speed limit along the Torrens to Torrens project’s lowered motorway has now been raised to 80 km/h.

We thank you for your patience and remind all road users to drive safely through the area and adhere to the new posted speed limit.


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[ChillyPhilly]

What a difference it makes when travelling along at 80km instead of 60.

[TrebleSketch]

What a difference it makes when travelling along at 80km instead of 60.

As mentioned several times, it's due to the bitumen. The faster you drive, the more force you are pushing down onto the road, meaning if the road isn't fully set the road might deform. At least, that's what I understand from what's been talked about previous in here.

[timtam20292]

What a difference it makes when travelling along at 80km instead of 60.

As mentioned several times, it's due to the bitumen. The faster you drive, the more force you are pushing down onto the road, meaning if the road isn't fully set the road might deform. At least, that's what I understand from what's been talked about previous in here.

How is this related to ChillyPhilly commenting about the difference of 60 km and 80 km?

[Goodsy]

What a difference it makes when travelling along at 80km instead of 60.

As mentioned several times, it's due to the bitumen. The faster you drive, the more force you are pushing down onto the road, meaning if the road isn't fully set the road might deform. At least, that's what I understand from what's been talked about previous in here.

It's not traveling at higher speeds that deforms the road, it's the braking from higher speeds. But anyway 4km non stop at 60kph is 4 minutes, at 80kph it's 3 minutes. Which could mean missing an entire traffic light cycle at each end, adding a few more minutes to your commute

[mawsonguy]

The DPTI 2022 Forward Work Plan https://dpti.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pd ... n_2022.pdf just released gives a start date for the Pym St - Regency Rd extension of early 2020 and finish of the Northern Connector as end 2019. But it also gives finish of the Darlington upgrade as end of 2018 which clearly is not feasable.

[rev]

Wasn’t Pym-Regency meant to start in 2019?

Also on the t2t landscaping the opposition leader has a petition going to get the government to finish the project off with landscaping as originally intended.

[how good is he]

Thanks Mawsonguy for the info. It seems very slow that they estimate it will take 3.5 years (mid 2022) to finish the Pym-Regency Rd section which is only 1.8km. I know it includes an overpass but how long will it take to finish the last 10.5km at this rate?

[Waewick]

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&sour ... 7403426551

Work on a 1.8-kilometre six-lane motorway from Pym Street to Regency Road will begin next year.

Article dated 2018, suggests start 2019.

[SBD]

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&sour ... 7403426551

Work on a 1.8-kilometre six-lane motorway from Pym Street to Regency Road will begin next year.

Article dated 2018, suggests start 2019.

The "start" of a project like that always depends on who is talking, and what they look at. Is property acquisition and demolition before or after the start? What about engineering design, tendering for construction, detailed design and procurement of equipment? As T2T is showing, the "end" is a bit rubbery too.