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Vasco
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by Vasco » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:23 pm
Brucetiki wrote:ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:29 am
I doubt it's to prevent rock throwing - not sure there are many rocks around any of these intersections.
Hopefully they can at least be dressed with a bit of art, or better yet, turned into a green wall.
Maybe not rocks, but people could throw themselves from the bridges.
Reality is however wether it be missiles or jumpers, there is still hundreds of metres of easily accessible low concrete barriers right next to what look like footpaths (whilst not actually meant for foot traffic).
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by Nathan » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:39 pm
muzzamo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:53 am
ml69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:03 am
bits wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:13 pm
By GPS I did mean Google Maps or if you must, TomTom based services like Apple Maps.
If you use anything other than Google Maps you have junk traffic data
So Google Maps real-time traffic data is better than Apple Maps? Just asking, I find Apple Maps real time traffic pretty reliable but never tried Google Maps
Yep - whoever has the most raw data as well as the ability to use it meaningful (data scientists etc) will win this battle by a significant margin. Google has copious amounts of both.
I find it can go either way, sometimes Google is more accurate, sometimes Apple. Same applies with directions. If a journey is time sensitive, I'll just check both and err on whichever one is being more cautious.
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by bits » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Vasco wrote:
Reality is however wether it be missiles or jumpers, there is still hundreds of metres of easily accessible low concrete barriers right next to what look like footpaths (whilst not actually meant for foot traffic).
I think they are splash barriers to prevent car crash debris from landing in the motorway.
But I also think these screens are after thoughts. They look retro fitted to the poles and do not look like that was the initial idea.
Things that cross my mind are
-were the initial poles a splash screen that someone later decided didn't actually function as required? Eg designer thought they were blocking entire car size pieces instead of a part of a bumber?
-was there a crash that caused debris to fall down and a quick decision was made to retro fit screens to the "art" poles?
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by Spotto » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:32 pm
I understand the blandness of the screens Southern Expressway screens makes them easier to mass produce and presumably keeps them lighter. And for an older stretch like the Southern Expressway with reasonably plain bridge designs at arguably underwhelming road crossings it makes sense. But are the T2T screens going to be the same plain design or are they actually going to make them look like they fit with the rest of the architecture like they were always there? Yes they're an afterthought, but we can try and make them look like they aren't. Even using the same design but powder coating them to match those weird poles would help.
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by aceman » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:41 pm
anyone driven on the ayliffes rd overpass yet?
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by claybro » Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:16 pm
Spotto wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:32 pm
I understand the blandness of the screens Southern Expressway screens makes them easier to mass produce and presumably keeps them lighter. And for an older stretch like the Southern Expressway with reasonably plain bridge designs at arguably underwhelming road crossings it makes sense. But are the T2T screens going to be the same plain design or are they actually going to make them look like they fit with the rest of the architecture like they were always there? Yes they're an afterthought, but we can try and make them look like they aren't. Even using the same design but powder coating them to match those weird poles would help.
Let's face it, those pole things were/are an abomination, and whoever gave the go ahead should be outed. They are neither good public art, or functional. Now they have apparently tried to make them functional, it is evidently more of a mess. There is a theme running in Adelaide with these finishing touches in landscaping and sculptures, and it's not good. Adelaideans really need to start demanding more from infrastructure and public space final treatments.
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by Spotto » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:43 am
aceman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:41 pm
anyone driven on the ayliffes rd overpass yet?
Yes. You don’t see anything but blue skies and a tiny bit of tree tops so for a moment it feels like you aren’t in Bedford Park. It was a nice enough drive, SO GLAD I don’t have to wait for the traffic lights now.
Although, still concerned about outbound evening peak traffic will still be stuck at the intersection and back up Ayliffes Road like it’s always done once the project is fully completed.
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by muzzamo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:25 am
Spotto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:43 am
Although, still concerned about outbound evening peak traffic will still be stuck at the intersection and back up Ayliffes Road like it’s always done once the project is fully completed.
When the project is complete, tHat intersection should have a *lot* more capacity than it does now. Several of the traffic flows have been removed from the intersection (increasing it's throughput for the remaining flows), and once through it will be traffic light free all the way to old noarlunga.
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by NTRabbit » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:15 am
aceman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:41 pm
anyone driven on the ayliffes rd overpass yet?
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by kymbosa » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:02 am
Tonsley213 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:40 pm
Handrails don’t look too bad.
They will be replaced in coming weeks with the same large screens found on the other bridges.
When driving on it at the moment I am taking in the view.
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by Tonsley213 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:12 am
kymbosa wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:02 am
Tonsley213 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:40 pm
Handrails don’t look too bad.
They will be replaced in coming weeks with the same large screens found on the other bridges.
When driving on it at the moment I am taking in the view.
Oh..will they??
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by aaronjameslange » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:14 am
kymbosa wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:02 am
Tonsley213 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:40 pm
Handrails don’t look too bad.
They will be replaced in coming weeks with the same large screens found on the other bridges.
When driving on it at the moment I am taking in the view.
Dont see why the bridge would need throw screens as it is not designed for pedestrian access. Yes you could lob an apple core from a moving vehicle, but you can do that on any road anywhere at anytime.
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by SBD » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:28 am
aaronjameslange wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:14 am
kymbosa wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:02 am
Tonsley213 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:40 pm
Handrails don’t look too bad.
They will be replaced in coming weeks with the same large screens found on the other bridges.
When driving on it at the moment I am taking in the view.
Dont see why the bridge would need throw screens as it is not designed for pedestrian access. Yes you could lob an apple core from a moving vehicle, but you can do that on any road anywhere at anytime.
There are "decorative elements" that would double as throw screens where the Superway passes over Grand Junction Road. I had assumed they were simply to break the monotony, but maybe they have a practical purpose too.
If they are needed for the Ayliffes Road bridge, I would have thought they would be installed before it was opened.
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