[COM] M2 Northern Connector | 15.5km | $867m

[mawsonguy]

A bad crash on the closed Superway https://www.facebook.com/10NewsAdl/vide ... 640591540/

[Brucetiki]

A bad crash on the closed Superway https://www.facebook.com/10NewsAdl/vide ... 640591540/

How can people be that dumb and still breathe? It's been heavily advertised on social media and the visual display boards for the past week or so that the Superway will be closed. Also, how can you completely be that oblivious to a line on concrete barriers that are literally right in front of you.

[mawsonguy]

A bad crash on the closed Superway https://www.facebook.com/10NewsAdl/vide ... 640591540/

How can people be that dumb and still breathe? It's been heavily advertised on social media and the visual display boards for the past week or so that the Superway will be closed. Also, how can you completely be that oblivious to a line on concrete barriers that are literally right in front of you.

We see what we want (or expect) to see. In one famous experiment, the experimenter gave a group of radiologists head scans and asked if they could detect an anomaly. In each scan there was a picture of a gorilla. 83% of the radiologists did not spot the gorilla. In addition, there is confirmation bias in which we seek information which confirms our beliefs and discard information which contradicts it.

So, if you have traveled the north-south freeway multiple times, you expected to see an open freeway with, perhaps, some roadworks at the Southern Interchange. You're probably driving on "autopilot". Your brain sees what it wants to see (i.e. an open freeway) and discards any contradictory information.

A controlled study in 2000 found average driver reaction brake time to be 2.3 seconds. Traveling at 90 km/h equates to 25.5 m/s so they would travel nearly 59 m before applying the brakes. Average braking distance at 90kph is 45m. So a total distance of about 100m. For a driver who is not alert and/or affected by alcohol, he will travel much further before he wakes up to what's going on. It also happened at night when our vision is reduced. We require 30 to 45 minutes of absolute darkness to attain 80% dark adaptation.

Having said all that, he clearly wasn't driving defensively.

[Norman]

It could also been a drink/drug driver or been severely fatigued.

[Eurostar]

Once the Northern Connector is opened it may just make towns like Two Wells and Virginia attractive places to live in. If I recall there was a new suburb proposed in Waterloo Corner a while ago, it was west of the Heaslip Road level crossing.

[ChillyPhilly]

Once the Northern Connector is opened it may just make towns like Two Wells and Virginia attractive places to live in. If I recall there was a new suburb proposed in Waterloo Corner a while ago, it was west of the Heaslip Road level crossing.

Ideally, these places shouldn't be promoted as satellite suburbs or towns.

[Waewick]

Once the Northern Connector is opened it may just make towns like Two Wells and Virginia attractive places to live in. If I recall there was a new suburb proposed in Waterloo Corner a while ago, it was west of the Heaslip Road level crossing.

Ideally, these places shouldn't be promoted as satellite suburbs or towns.

Unless there is a train included in any plans.

[ChillyPhilly]

Once the Northern Connector is opened it may just make towns like Two Wells and Virginia attractive places to live in. If I recall there was a new suburb proposed in Waterloo Corner a while ago, it was west of the Heaslip Road level crossing.

Ideally, these places shouldn't be promoted as satellite suburbs or towns.

Unless there is a train included in any plans.

That's the dream - but car use will still win. So it's simply wiser to just avoid allowing silly development like Buckland Park, Mt Gambier, etc.

[SBD]

Ideally, these places shouldn't be promoted as satellite suburbs or towns.

Unless there is a train included in any plans.

That's the dream - but car use will still win. So it's simply wiser to just avoid allowing silly development like Buckland Park, Mt Gambier, etc.

Adelaide suburbs shouldn’t be built so far out. Developments at Two Wells for “country living” should be for country, or at least outer metro (Edinburgh, Penfield etc) employment. We should stop trying to pretend that employment can only happen in the city centre.

[rev]

Unless there is a train included in any plans.

That's the dream - but car use will still win. So it's simply wiser to just avoid allowing silly development like Buckland Park, Mt Gambier, etc.

Adelaide suburbs shouldn’t be built so far out. Developments at Two Wells for “country living” should be for country, or at least outer metro (Edinburgh, Penfield etc) employment. We should stop trying to pretend that employment can only happen in the city centre.

Where do you want people to live as affordable land becomes harder and harder to find in existing suburbs? Apartments? If tge majority wanted thay, most of these new developments wouldnt happen as the demand wouldnt be there.

[ChillyPhilly]

Housing can be more affordable quite easily: more regulation and removal of negative gearing. If the housing market wasn't designed around overseas and interstate property investors - and the motor vehicle - then we'd have a healthy market.

[how good is he]

However by trying to make housing more affordable/making purchasing property less expensive, the effect of getting rid of negative gearing (investment incentives) will impact rental supply and lead to this type of housing (renting) then being more expensive. Federal Labour just tried and lost the last election based on trying to remove negative gearing. It showed the majority of voters wouldn’t agree to this policy anyway. I would expect if any future Govt tried it again, it would be political suicide & they would fail also.

[SBD]

That's the dream - but car use will still win. So it's simply wiser to just avoid allowing silly development like Buckland Park, Mt Gambier, etc.

Adelaide suburbs shouldn’t be built so far out. Developments at Two Wells for “country living” should be for country, or at least outer metro (Edinburgh, Penfield etc) employment. We should stop trying to pretend that employment can only happen in the city centre.

Where do you want people to live as affordable land becomes harder and harder to find in existing suburbs? Apartments? If tge majority wanted thay, most of these new developments wouldnt happen as the demand wouldnt be there.

Lightsview is built on a former government farm. Eyre is former farmland in what used to be called Penfield. There s a new estate near Curtis Road and the Northern Expressway. Playford alive and Blake’s crossing are not sold out. Do I need to continue? There are also a number of former school sites available for development, but eventually, the families that buy houses there will have children that need schooling, and there won’t be any space to restart a school.

[SRW]

However by trying to make housing more affordable/making purchasing property less expensive, the effect of getting rid of negative gearing (investment incentives) will impact rental supply and lead to this type of housing (renting) then being more expensive. Federal Labour just tried and lost the last election based on trying to remove negative gearing. It showed the majority of voters wouldn’t agree to this policy anyway. I would expect if any future Govt tried it again, it would be political suicide & they would fail also.

This is your opinion not fact. Most modelling suggested that Labor's negative gearing policy would have only marginal impact on prices. The reason rents would increase is if supply decreased. Given that Labor's policy dampened speculative behaviour by grandfathering extant negative gearing and targeting its future use for new builds, it's also possible supply would have increased as investment flowed to construction and increasing affordability helped people to leave the rental market. Anyway, Labor's loss can't be pinned to any one policy, especially not negative gearing which had already been aired at the 2016 election and received far less attention in 2019 than franking credits (among other things). Either way, it remains good policy IMO, but that's something to argue over in the Fed Pol thread.

[ChillyPhilly]

Steering back on topic, the convenience of the NC, NExy and PWR will completely negate any chance for a rail service to be successful. Adelaide's culture of 'driving to work' is the worst in Australia.