News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

[PD2/20]

This. However, some new sleepers will be laid; there's several piles of new ones near Dudley Park station.

The track from north of Pym St that ran into Islington Works has been removed and the crossover between Dudley Park and Pym St was being removed this afternoon.

[Nathan]

Steel gantry posts for the electrification project delivered today (lying on their side), near North Adelaide Railway Station.

Workers a plenty as the line is closed.

Saw just one being installed later this afternoon.

[1NEEDS2POST]

Out of idle curiosity, has the option of running suburban trains out as far as Virginia or Two Wells been considered?

There's a lot of development there.

Given the possibility of having a couple of stations only but well connected to buses in the area, that could be a very fast service, even with diesels.

I'm not advocating it, btw, rather asking if it's ever been studied?

I don't know of a study, but the problem for now is that the track to Virginia and Two Wells is standard gauge, while the rest of the suburban network is broad gauge.

[PeFe]

Out of idle curiosity, has the option of running suburban trains out as far as Virginia or Two Wells been considered?

There's a lot of development there.

Given the possibility of having a couple of stations only but well connected to buses in the area, that could be a very fast service, even with diesels.

I'm not advocating it, btw, rather asking if it's ever been studied?

I don't know of a study, but the problem for now is that the track to Virginia and Two Wells is standard gauge, while the rest of the suburban network is broad gauge.

If there was to be a Two Wells Adelaide Metro train service then why not build a new line north of Dry Creek leaving the current Salisbury Two Wells train line as freight only.

The new line could head north from Dry creek skirting between the North South motorway and just west of suburbia at Salisbury/Burton never interconnecting with the freight line.

Also a chance to build "outer suburbia" with some decent public transport attached. The stations could be transit orientated developments with apartments and bus interchange along your traditional (shrinking) quarter acre blocks.

Not that I'm advocating this is the way Adelaide should grow but if it does come to this can we at least do it right?

[SBD]

Out of idle curiosity, has the option of running suburban trains out as far as Virginia or Two Wells been considered?

There's a lot of development there.

Given the possibility of having a couple of stations only but well connected to buses in the area, that could be a very fast service, even with diesels.

I'm not advocating it, btw, rather asking if it's ever been studied?

I don't know of a study, but the problem for now is that the track to Virginia and Two Wells is standard gauge, while the rest of the suburban network is broad gauge.

If there was to be a Two Wells Adelaide Metro train service then why not build a new line north of Dry Creek leaving the current Salisbury Two Wells train line as freight only.

The new line could head north from Dry creek skirting between the North South motorway and just west of suburbia at Salisbury/Burton never interconnecting with the freight line.

Also a chance to build "outer suburbia" with some decent public transport attached. The stations could be transit orientated developments with apartments and bus interchange along your traditional (shrinking) quarter acre blocks.

Not that I'm advocating this is the way Adelaide should grow but if it does come to this can we at least do it right?

If going to the expense of building a new line, it might be just as viable to do the Northern Connector rail component to move the freight trains out of the inner northern suburbs, then gauge convert the current line back to broad gauge between Sailsbury and Bolivar

[Norman]

I don't know of a study, but the problem for now is that the track to Virginia and Two Wells is standard gauge, while the rest of the suburban network is broad gauge.

If there was to be a Two Wells Adelaide Metro train service then why not build a new line north of Dry Creek leaving the current Salisbury Two Wells train line as freight only.

The new line could head north from Dry creek skirting between the North South motorway and just west of suburbia at Salisbury/Burton never interconnecting with the freight line.

Also a chance to build "outer suburbia" with some decent public transport attached. The stations could be transit orientated developments with apartments and bus interchange along your traditional (shrinking) quarter acre blocks.

Not that I'm advocating this is the way Adelaide should grow but if it does come to this can we at least do it right?

If going to the expense of building a new line, it might be just as viable to do the Northern Connector rail component to move the freight trains out of the inner northern suburbs, then gauge convert the current line back to broad gauge between Sailsbury and Bolivar

I agree with this. It world also cement Salisbury further as a regional centre.

[Bob]

If there was to be a Two Wells Adelaide Metro train service then why not build a new line north of Dry Creek leaving the current Salisbury Two Wells train line as freight only.

The new line could head north from Dry creek skirting between the North South motorway and just west of suburbia at Salisbury/Burton never interconnecting with the freight line.

Also a chance to build "outer suburbia" with some decent public transport attached. The stations could be transit orientated developments with apartments and bus interchange along your traditional (shrinking) quarter acre blocks.

Not that I'm advocating this is the way Adelaide should grow but if it does come to this can we at least do it right?

If going to the expense of building a new line, it might be just as viable to do the Northern Connector rail component to move the freight trains out of the inner northern suburbs, then gauge convert the current line back to broad gauge between Sailsbury and Bolivar

I agree with this. It world also cement Salisbury further as a regional centre.

If or when the new Northern Connector ARTC line is built between Dry Creek and Virginia, the existing line from Virginia to Edinburgh Industrial area will still be required as an intermodal standard gauge freight connection (becoming a branch line). A branch line from the new main ARTC line in the same manner as Port Adelaide, Outer Harbor, Islington, Regency Park etc, places where railed freight has to connect to the main ARTC line.

Then the existing ARTC standard gauge line from Salisbury to Dry Creek would either be removed or handed over for suburban use. If handed over the decision if it would be gauge converted to broad gauge or not would depend on the long-term plans for what gauge is going to be used long term across the suburban network.

So, a suburban line from Salisbury to Two Wells via Virginia in this scenario becomes more difficult to foresee.

PS - the marshalling rail yard between Port Wakefield Road and Mawons Lakes would also be removed if/when the new ARTC line Northern Connector line is built.

[PeFe]

So does the Northern Connector rail corridor still exist? Has the land been set aside for future use?

[Spotto]

So does the Northern Connector rail corridor still exist? Has the land been set aside for future use?

Yes, a corridor has been reserved on the eastern side of NC.

[Eurostar]

Before any new branch lines majority of the lines should be electrified.

[1NEEDS2POST]

Before any new branch lines majority of the lines should be electrified.

Also that would free up DMUs for any new branch lines.

[I Follow PAFC]

Adelaide metro are starting to cut the number of carriages on some of the Outer Harbor trains.

[Spotto]

Adelaide metro are starting to cut the number of carriages on some of the Outer Harbor trains.

Haven’t they been doing that for a while already?

[1NEEDS2POST]

Adelaide metro are starting to cut the number of carriages on some of the Outer Harbor trains.

With coronavirus, there is much less demand for public transport. They could cut back every train to one or two carriages.

[I Follow PAFC]

Adelaide metro are starting to cut the number of carriages on some of the Outer Harbor trains.

Haven’t they been doing that for a while already?

Every time I have seen a train been two and that is at night too after the virus start but
yesterday seen some with one and all trains after about 6 pm.