News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4666 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:38 am

Gawler Line Electrification is progressing well, but there are some missed opportunities about the project.

Masterplanning was evidently very narrow. Consequently there seems to be a lack of provision for station upgrades. North Adelaide, Ovingham, Dudley Park, Islington, Kilburn, Dry Creek, Greenfields, Parafield Gardens, Salisbury and several more to the north need general modernisation and improvement to amenity and access. Even any upgrade planned for Ovingham as part of the Ovingham Crossing project seems limited.

Already, missed opportunities for Islington are apparent. Station upgrades should have been part of the project.

The project has also highlighted just how much of a thorn in its side the ARTC freight line is. It is a massive barrier to communities along the line. However, a solution is a significant challenge. GlobeLink would have addressed this, but that proposal was let down by its other features.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4667 Post by TorrensSA » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:51 am

The old Islington Workshops line at Islington Station, the most eastern line could become a bus interchange, you could build a road from Davenport Terrace and come out near Hungry Jacks, you could also add stairs / lift to the bridge. This eliminates the need for pedestrians to cross the ARTC track.
Adelaide has so many terrible stations, design a simple station design and copy and paste it, a big roof and some protection from the elements, the newer basic ones like Chidda have a big roof but no wind protection.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4668 Post by Eurostar » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:01 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:38 am
Gawler Line Electrification is progressing well, but there are some missed opportunities about the project.

Masterplanning was evidently very narrow. Consequently there seems to be a lack of provision for station upgrades. North Adelaide, Ovingham, Dudley Park, Islington, Kilburn, Dry Creek, Greenfields, Parafield Gardens, Salisbury and several more to the north need general modernisation and improvement to amenity and access. Even any upgrade planned for Ovingham as part of the Ovingham Crossing project seems limited.

Already, missed opportunities for Islington are apparent. Station upgrades should have been part of the project.

The project has also highlighted just how much of a thorn in its side the ARTC freight line is. It is a massive barrier to communities along the line. However, a solution is a significant challenge. GlobeLink would have addressed this, but that proposal was let down by its other features.
I thought Parafield Gardens station was recently upgraded, i recall the video of the old shelter getting removed.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4669 Post by Spotto » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:21 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:38 am
Gawler Line Electrification is progressing well, but there are some missed opportunities about the project.

Masterplanning was evidently very narrow.
Back when the project was just being announced, Gawler (and Barossa) locals were petitioning for Gawler Central station to be upgraded and pre-emptively grade separated into a cutting before Murray Street (see Seaford station and Griffiths Drive) so that the station would be ready for a line extension to Concordia or the Barossa and all the new works wouldn't have to be torn out; the cutting would simply continue to Murray Street and run underneath. Predictably, nothing happened.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4670 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:36 am

A quick couple of snaps from late July of the entrance to the new pedestrian link to Adelaide Railway Station.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4671 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:32 pm

TorrensSA wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:51 am
The old Islington Workshops line at Islington Station, the most eastern line could become a bus interchange, you could build a road from Davenport Terrace and come out near Hungry Jacks, you could also add stairs / lift to the bridge. This eliminates the need for pedestrians to cross the ARTC track.
Islington should be a major interchange with buses from Regency Rd and Churchill Rd. Not to mention, it's also close to the shopping centres on Churchill Rd. Yet it's one of the most neglected stations!

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4672 Post by claybro » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:23 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:32 pm
[quote=TorrensSA post_id=194226 time=<a href="tel:1597882906">1597882906</a> user_id=8259]
The old Islington Workshops line at Islington Station, the most eastern line could become a bus interchange, you could build a road from Davenport Terrace and come out near Hungry Jacks, you could also add stairs / lift to the bridge. This eliminates the need for pedestrians to cross the ARTC track.
Islington should be a major interchange with buses from Regency Rd and Churchill Rd. Not to mention, it's also close to the shopping centres on Churchill Rd. Yet it's one of the most neglected stations!
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There were promising signs the current government was heading in the right direction with bus re-routs to interchange with trains, but sadly it looks like it was just a cost saving token excercise. You are correct that this is a major missed opportunity for an inner north interchange assisting with keeping busses out of Nirth Adelaide and inner CBD.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4673 Post by mmosca447 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:04 pm

Is it looking like we'll get a rebuild of Hove/Warradale and potentially Brighton stations when the Hove crossing works are completed? I imagine either Hove or Warradale station will be demolished, and the remaining station are certainly in need of some repairs. Definitely an opportunity to bring Brighton station closer to Jetty Road than where it is now imo.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4674 Post by Spotto » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:33 am

mmosca447 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:04 pm
Is it looking like we'll get a rebuild of Hove/Warradale and potentially Brighton stations when the Hove crossing works are completed? I imagine either Hove or Warradale station will be demolished, and the remaining station are certainly in need of some repairs. Definitely an opportunity to bring Brighton station closer to Jetty Road than where it is now imo.
Your question might be better placed in the dedicated thread for the Hove Level Crossing Removal: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6949&start=45.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4675 Post by EBG » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:51 pm

5/9/20 picture of the masts between Dudley Park and Islington. There are some power supply lines in place but not the actual overhead train contact wires. This project seems to have gaps in certain areas with work more advanced in some areas.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4676 Post by Spotto » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:41 am

EBG wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:51 pm
This project seems to have gaps in certain areas with work more advanced in some areas.
The entire line may have been separated into several work “zones” with separate teams and each team is working progressively within each section. Kind of like how the Northern Connector was one project split up into sections but all built at once.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4677 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:08 pm

Spotto wrote:
EBG wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:51 pm
This project seems to have gaps in certain areas with work more advanced in some areas.
The entire line may have been separated into several work “zones” with separate teams and each team is working progressively within each section. Kind of like how the Northern Connector was one project split up into sections but all built at once.
This is pretty much it. Some areas have been a little more complex to excavate, tidy, etc. Overall, the project is between Adelaide and Salisbury for now.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4678 Post by Spotto » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:57 pm

An updated version of the Flinders Link Project Animation with a more accurate representation of what we'll see. They've also included the new Tonsley station and added buildings to visualise Tonsley Village and a built-up Laffers Triangle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnXJlXL6UQ

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4679 Post by Nathan » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:46 pm

Is it a bit weird that there is a surface level greenway on the eastern side of the tramline past Tonsley, but when the elevated section starts, that greenway just abruptly ends and then there's a switchback ramp leading up to an elevated path on the western side — with the two not joining up. Why wouldn't you have the elevated path follow alongside the line all the way down?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

#4680 Post by Norman » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:21 pm

I see that they have renamed Adelaide Showground back to Keswick and renamed Goodwood to Woodlands Park :roll:

Who approved this video? Some serious quality control missing here!

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