

IMO the green looks great, whereas I hate the burnt orange. Too much of Adelaide's massive infrastructure projects use shades or red or blue, it's nice to see some green in the mix for a change.Spotto wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:21 pmSaw the bridge sections for myself while driving past. Is it just me or is the green that they've chosen hideous? I'm surprised they didn't just go with the same dark grey as the Darlington road bridges and actually chose to use colour. Colour is not a bad thing, burnt orange on the Flinders Link looks good and a different shade of green or another colour altogether could've worked here. But the green they chose gives me toddler Lego vibes.
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I didn't know that the T2T trench had suddenly turned into an elevated Motorway...The other option under consideration is an elevated motorway, similar to the Torrens to Torrens project.
It's just inverted. Haven't you seen Tenet yet?
Is anybody surprised in the slightest?croweater888 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:36 pmIt shows major construction work on the proposed tunnel, which would form Stage 1 of the project, might not start until 2024 and may not be completed until mid-2028.
The papers also reveals work on Stages 2a and 2b, between Anzac Highway and the River Torrens, would not begin until Stage 1 was finished and could take a further two-and-a-half years and four years respectively to complete.
This would mean the project may not be completed for 14.5 years, or more than a decade late.
No and no confidence in Minister Windbag’s guarantee of a 2030 completion either.Spotto wrote:Is anybody surprised in the slightest?croweater888 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:36 pmIt shows major construction work on the proposed tunnel, which would form Stage 1 of the project, might not start until 2024 and may not be completed until mid-2028.
The papers also reveals work on Stages 2a and 2b, between Anzac Highway and the River Torrens, would not begin until Stage 1 was finished and could take a further two-and-a-half years and four years respectively to complete.
This would mean the project may not be completed for 14.5 years, or more than a decade late.
I'm not sure that means that Stage 2 is not started until after Stage 1 is completed. I anticipate that Stage 1 will impact on Stage 2 by, for example, using the earthmoving capacity necessessary for Stage 2 but I can't see why they couldn't start Stage 2 before Stage 1 is completed (e.g. after earthworks have been completed and whilst Stage 1 is still being fitted out).The Opposition says the second stage appears to be a lowered roadway and open road between Anzac Highway and the River Torrens – which would not begin until Stage 1 was completed, likely in mid-2028.
The documents, seen by InDaily, state the Stage 2 construction date will be “driven by Stage 1 operational start”.
Koutsantonis says that the project was originally promised to be completed in 2023.... Who promised that date, and when? Was it Mr Koutsantonis himself, as minister for Transport and Infrastructure before the 2014 election? Apart from standing in front of the Thebarton Theatre to protect it from any possible Liberal bulldozers, has he done anything to develop that promise?Saltwater wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:43 pmThis feels like a targeted leak to either identify a serial leaker within the LNP, and / or (and possibly more likely) make Koutsantonis look like an idiot.
It is completely at odds with the most recent high level scoping study, which mentioned either trench the whole way or tunnel from the river to Anzac Highway, and trench from there south. Notwithstanding the geological surveys are still underway in the inner west.
Well actually it was Tony Abbott that always trumpeted the North South Motorway would be competed within 10 years... to be delivered by an incoming Marshal Liberal Government. (Various links provide this false throwaway promise).SBD wrote:Koutsantonis says that the project was originally promised to be completed in 2023.... Who promised that date, and when? Was it Mr Koutsantonis himself, as minister for Transport and Infrastructure before the 2014 election? Apart from standing in front of the Thebarton Theatre to protect it from any possible Liberal bulldozers, has he done anything to develop that promise?Saltwater wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:43 pmThis feels like a targeted leak to either identify a serial leaker within the LNP, and / or (and possibly more likely) make Koutsantonis look like an idiot.
It is completely at odds with the most recent high level scoping study, which mentioned either trench the whole way or tunnel from the river to Anzac Highway, and trench from there south. Notwithstanding the geological surveys are still underway in the inner west.
Thanks for the correction - so it was promised by the Liberals if they won the 2014 election. Labor won that election, so for Koutsantonis to claim it was to promised to be completed by 2023, he has to demonstrate that Labor did enough in the four years that he was Treasurer to stay on that timeline. Maybe Northern Connector and Darlington count for that, but the complete lack of any planning for the "hard bits" in the middle suggest that even if Labor had won in 2018, they could not have kept anywhere near that goal.Vasco wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 pmWell actually it was Tony Abbott that always trumpeted the North South Motorway would be competed within 10 years... to be delivered by an incoming Marshal Liberal Government. (Various links provide this false throwaway promise).SBD wrote:Koutsantonis says that the project was originally promised to be completed in 2023.... Who promised that date, and when? Was it Mr Koutsantonis himself, as minister for Transport and Infrastructure before the 2014 election? Apart from standing in front of the Thebarton Theatre to protect it from any possible Liberal bulldozers, has he done anything to develop that promise?Saltwater wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:43 pmThis feels like a targeted leak to either identify a serial leaker within the LNP, and / or (and possibly more likely) make Koutsantonis look like an idiot.
It is completely at odds with the most recent high level scoping study, which mentioned either trench the whole way or tunnel from the river to Anzac Highway, and trench from there south. Notwithstanding the geological surveys are still underway in the inner west.
My favourite part of the below article is this excerpt;
Mr Marshall said developing the master plan would be a first order of business for a Liberal SA government with a view to having the entire project completed as soon as possible.
https://www.news.com.au/national/breaki ... f6fc784bbc
SA Liberals back north-south road corridor
OCTOBER 19, 2013
THE South Australian opposition has pledged to develop a plan for Adelaide's long-awaited north-south road corridor if it wins the March state election.
Liberal leader Steven Marshall says a plan to develop the entire corridor, which has drawn support from the federal government, would end the disjointed approach taken in recent years.
He says it would result in free-flowing traffic, improved commuter safety and reduced congestion.
"A master plan for the entire north-south is a sensible solution," Mr Marshall said after an address to the South Australian Liberal Party annual meeting on Saturday.
"For years the state Labor government has had a disjointed approach to transport and infrastructure that has failed to deliver outcomes for South Australians."
Prime Minister Tony Abbott also told Saturday's meeting that the federal government would help fund the project.
Before the recent federal election the coalition pledged $500 million to help fund an upgrade to a section of the corridor at suburban Darlington.
On Saturday Mr Abbott also indicated federal support for upgrading the Torrens Road section of the corridor and to developing the entire corridor within 10 years.
Mr Marshall said developing the master plan would be a first order of business for a Liberal SA government with a view to having the entire project completed as soon as possible.
The idea of a north-south road corridor across Adelaide was first suggested back in the 1960s.
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Take away about 3-4 years or so before they actually start even digging up anything.how good is he wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:27 pmEven if its finished in 10 years that's only 1 km a year on average for the 10kms of road... plus the cost of probably $1 billion per km.. something is wrong. TBMs can do 10-15 kms in one year... even allowing 2-3 years to complete it would be fair... but 10 -15 years?
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