[COM] 145-159 King William Street (GPO) | 61m | 16 Levels | Hotel

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#196 Post by AndyWelsh » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:08 pm

Reminder of what was in the planning docs:

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#197 Post by AndyWelsh » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:09 pm

So will the old post office building be renovated and make up part of this hotel? Sorry if this is obvious somewhere but I cannot see it and the planning doc keeps crashing on me.


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#198 Post by how good is he » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:36 pm

Wondering why they haven’t gone higher here...at least to the same height as the new BHP building next door. Also another new hotel with no balconies for any of the rooms. Even a nice roof deck may have been a compromise. To me it looks more like an office building than a hotel. Hopefully the finishes are to a very high standard.

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#199 Post by Jaymz » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:33 am

If their aim was to go for a 1960's high rise vibe, then they've well and truly nailed it! 👌

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#200 Post by Patrick_27 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:18 pm

how good is he wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Wondering why they haven’t gone higher here...at least to the same height as the new BHP building next door.
Because it would wash out the remaining GPO building and the clocktower, there's nothing wrong with this height.
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:33 am
If their aim was to go for a 1960's high rise vibe, then they've well and truly nailed it! 👌
You say that like it's a bad thing? A lot of 60s architecture in Adelaide and Australia is among the best in terms of how it's aged. I'd rather this than a building like Adelaidean that in 20-years will look tired and show just how many cost cutting measures they took during the build.

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#201 Post by Mpol02 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:00 pm

Jaymz wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:33 am
If their aim was to go for a 1960's high rise vibe, then they've well and truly nailed it! 👌
Why can’t you be more positive, you’re always so negative blah blah blah. :wallbash: :cheers: :sly:

Also. Agreed.

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#202 Post by Jaymz » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:06 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:18 pm
how good is he wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Wondering why they haven’t gone higher here...at least to the same height as the new BHP building next door.
Because it would wash out the remaining GPO building and the clocktower, there's nothing wrong with this height.
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:33 am
If their aim was to go for a 1960's high rise vibe, then they've well and truly nailed it! 👌
You say that like it's a bad thing? A lot of 60s architecture in Adelaide and Australia is among the best in terms of how it's aged. I'd rather this than a building like Adelaidean that in 20-years will look tired and show just how many cost cutting measures they took during the build.

I hate to take this off track, but i'm interested to see some of these architectural masterpieces from the 60's. Can you give me a few examples to look up please? If not in Adelaide, then globally is fine :)

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#203 Post by gnrc_louis » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:42 pm

Jaymz wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:06 pm
Patrick_27 wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:18 pm
how good is he wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Wondering why they haven’t gone higher here...at least to the same height as the new BHP building next door.
Because it would wash out the remaining GPO building and the clocktower, there's nothing wrong with this height.
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:33 am
If their aim was to go for a 1960's high rise vibe, then they've well and truly nailed it! 👌
You say that like it's a bad thing? A lot of 60s architecture in Adelaide and Australia is among the best in terms of how it's aged. I'd rather this than a building like Adelaidean that in 20-years will look tired and show just how many cost cutting measures they took during the build.

I hate to take this off track, but i'm interested to see some of these architectural masterpieces from the 60's. Can you give me a few examples to look up please? If not in Adelaide, then globally is fine :)
Reserve Bank Building
State Admin Centre
Grenfell Centre (built in the early 70s but still the International Style which was big in the 60s)
MLC Building (built in the late 50s but like above the International Style)

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#204 Post by Jaymz » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:54 pm

gnrc_louis wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:42 pm
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:06 pm
Patrick_27 wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:18 pm


Because it would wash out the remaining GPO building and the clocktower, there's nothing wrong with this height.



You say that like it's a bad thing? A lot of 60s architecture in Adelaide and Australia is among the best in terms of how it's aged. I'd rather this than a building like Adelaidean that in 20-years will look tired and show just how many cost cutting measures they took during the build.

I hate to take this off track, but i'm interested to see some of these architectural masterpieces from the 60's. Can you give me a few examples to look up please? If not in Adelaide, then globally is fine :)
Reserve Bank Building
State Admin Centre
Grenfell Centre (built in the early 70s but still the International Style which was big in the 60s)
MLC Building (built in the late 50s but like above the International Style)
I'm really disappointed you mentioned the State Admin building as it is hideous.

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#205 Post by citywatcher » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:19 pm

Jaymz wrote:
gnrc_louis wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:42 pm
Jaymz wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:06 pm

I hate to take this off track, but i'm interested to see some of these architectural masterpieces from the 60's. Can you give me a few examples to look up please? If not in Adelaide, then globally is fine :)
Reserve Bank Building
State Admin Centre
Grenfell Centre (built in the early 70s but still the International Style which was big in the 60s)
MLC Building (built in the late 50s but like above the International Style)
I'm really disappointed you mentioned the State Admin building as it is hideous.
Agree


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#206 Post by Bob » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:08 am

This proposed structure is the right concept and proportion for this situation as it does not detract from the GPO, rather it enhances it, like a framed masterpiece in an art gallery.

In this case the simple approach is the best – the architectural finesse already exists in the GPO.

For new buildings wanting extreme architectural boldness, there are other potential CBD sites to make that statement, but here is not one of them.

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#207 Post by belivesinadsy » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:00 am

That side of the city is really taking off.

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#208 Post by belivesinadsy » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:01 am

Bob wrote:This proposed structure is the right concept and proportion for this situation as it does not detract from the GPO, rather it enhances it, like a framed masterpiece in an art gallery.

In this case the simple approach is the best – the architectural finesse already exists in the GPO.

For new buildings wanting extreme architectural boldness, there are other potential CBD sites to make that statement, but here is not one of them.
Interesting point. Never thought about it like that and actually think you have a really point :)

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#209 Post by how good is he » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:07 am

While I understand and even agree with this philosophy my point is more the current design of this austere building looks like/should be an office building rather than a new hotel. I doubt its images would look very exciting in marketing to tourists/travellers (unless they want that 1960 -1970s look?). I get the restraint and subdued approach to its design but it doesn’t align with a new (Westin) 5 star hotel to me.

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#210 Post by Mpol02 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:18 am

Let’s just call it what it is. It’s a piece of shit

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