News & Discussion: Trams

[whatstheirnamesmom]

351 is in the original livery, while 352 has been repainted in official MTT 'silver and carnation red' livery which transitioned to become the standard look for all H-Types (plus the trolleybusses) during 1952—1956.

[SRW]

It'd be great to see the heritage service return if/when the network expands.

[Eurostar]

It'd be great to see the heritage service return if/when the network expands.

Does Glengowrie even have a H Type tram?

[Norman]

It'd be great to see the heritage service return if/when the network expands.

Does Glengowrie even have a H Type tram?

Not at the moment. I assume SRW means when a new depot is built, heritage tram services should resume as there will be space to accommodate the H-class.

[rogue]

What about retro livery on a citadis or flexity tram just like a lot of airlines are doing these days with aircraft?

[Spotto]

Fantastic that they're being put somewhere that will protect and look after them, but a huge disappointment that they weren't retained for heritage runs to Glenelg. Sundays, or every other Sunday would've been nice to see, especially since the trial runs they did a few years ago were apparently very popular.

[PD2/20]

Fantastic that they're being put somewhere that will protect and look after them, but a huge disappointment that they weren't retained for heritage runs to Glenelg. Sundays, or every other Sunday would've been nice to see, especially since the trial runs they did a few years ago were apparently very popular.

They were kept at Glengowrie until the 3 extra Citadis trams were acquired for the City East extension. There simply wasn't enough room in the depot for 351/2 along with the regular fleet.

[[Shuz]]

So essentially any future line extension, by default, requires either an expansion of the Glengowrie depot or the construction of a new depot. Either way, it isn't going to come cheap.

Agreed - would like to see the heritage trams back in service as a tourist run of some sort.

[VLtom]

Undoubtedly very hard to run a heritage services along Jetty Rd given the frequency of the trams, even on weekends. As the trams already run every 10 minutes outside peak 7 days a week it makes it very hard to slot an additional tram service in that only uses three stops. The biggest problem is the lack of platform space at the Glenelg terminus, with the tram services themselves tending to get backed up in peak. I would very much like to see a heritage service be introduced, but Jetty Rd probably isn't ideal. North Terrace could work imo, given there should be plenty of spare capacity at the moment, but heritage services aren't ideal - mostly with accessibility for disabled passengers

[Spotto]

Undoubtedly very hard to run a heritage services along Jetty Rd given the frequency of the trams, even on weekends. As the trams already run every 10 minutes outside peak 7 days a week it makes it very hard to slot an additional tram service in that only uses three stops. The biggest problem is the lack of platform space at the Glenelg terminus, with the tram services themselves tending to get backed up in peak. I would very much like to see a heritage service be introduced, but Jetty Rd probably isn't ideal. North Terrace could work imo, given there should be plenty of spare capacity at the moment, but heritage services aren't ideal - mostly with accessibility for disabled passengers

Not just a Jetty Road shuttle (which wouldn’t be feasible anyway), run it the entire length of the Festival Plaza to Glenelg route.

Sunday and public holiday service frequency is every 10 minutes 9am to 6pm. You could possibly slot it between services, or just replace some of the scheduled services with the heritage trams (would need to be coupled for capacity).

[rev]

Undoubtedly very hard to run a heritage services along Jetty Rd given the frequency of the trams, even on weekends. As the trams already run every 10 minutes outside peak 7 days a week it makes it very hard to slot an additional tram service in that only uses three stops. The biggest problem is the lack of platform space at the Glenelg terminus, with the tram services themselves tending to get backed up in peak. I would very much like to see a heritage service be introduced, but Jetty Rd probably isn't ideal. North Terrace could work imo, given there should be plenty of spare capacity at the moment, but heritage services aren't ideal - mostly with accessibility for disabled passengers

How difficult would it be to modify the old trams to allow wheel chair access?

[[Shuz]]

Out of the question. You'd end up butchering the trams beyond any recognition whatsoever. It defeats the purpose of them being a heritage tram.

[Llessur2002]

If and when the city loop is built would potentially be a good time to introduce heritage services around the CBD. Not necessarily all the time - maybe restricted to weekends and school holidays for tourism purposes, which would presumably help avoid timetabling clashes at peak commuting times.

The lack of disability access shouldn't really be a reason to not run them - as with heritage buildings there can't always be appropriate modifications made to allow full accessibility and I'm sure most disabled people would be perfectly understanding of this.

[rubberman]

If the trams were given to the AETM, as opposed to "loaned", it would indicate that there's no intention of ever running a service with them - they no longer are the property of the SA Government.

As an aside, does anyone know the last time they were run in Adelaide? The latest I am aware of is October 2016. However, that may be way off the correct date.

[rev]

Out of the question. You'd end up butchering the trams beyond any recognition whatsoever. It defeats the purpose of them being a heritage tram.

Im sure if there was a will to do it, they could find a way without heavily compromising the overall heritage.