[U/C] Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line

[gnrc_louis]

If a Federal Labor Government is elected, hopefully there might be more money around for other rail projects.

[Spotto]

With Labor's victory last night this one is meant to be back on the menu, seems they never made a promise about when they'd build it, but with the alleged cost now $52 million it's by far the largest public transport policy either major party took to the election.

I’d still rather see that money go towards investigating/establishing passenger rail to a growing development that still doesn’t have it yet (Mount Barker, Aldinga, Roseworthy, Nuriootpa, Two Wells)

The Port has a rail service, and hailing a bus to/from the existing station down Commercial Road has the same connections as this branch will provide

[[Shuz]]

They also confirmed it would not change the scheduling of the Outer Harbor line, so if I'm to read in between the lines, I reckon it will affect scheduling of the Grange line. Services would increase in frequency between Alberton and Bowden.

[PeFe]

This thread should be reclassified from [CAN] cancelled to [RESUC] resuscitated.....

[Llessur2002]

I missed this when it was first published:

Labor's $52m pledge to get Port Adelaide rail extension back on track

Labor says it will rebuild the Port Dock railway line and station if it wins Saturday’s election, after the Marshall Government derailed the previous Labor government’s project due to its cost.



The Opposition’s election commitment revives plans from the Weatherill Government to build a 1km spur line and station running off the Outer Harbor line to connect the Port Adelaide city centre to the CBD.

The new spur line was to be built from a point before the Outer Harbor line crossed Port Road, heading into Port Adelaide towards the waterfront and ending at Baker Street where the Pirate Life brewery is now located.



The new station and associated bus interchange was slated for construction on the eastern side of the National Railway Museum.

Labor allocated $16.4 million to the project in October 2017.

But the Marshall Government put the extension on ice in June 2019, citing a completed “detailed technical design” which found the project would actually cost $40 million.

A Labor spokesperson said a Malinauskas Government would put $52 million towards the extension – more than $35 million more than the Weatherill Government had initially budgeted.

The move marks Labor’s first major transport extension commitment this election, in stark contrast to their pledges four years ago to extend the city’s tram network out to North Adelaide and Norwood – promises that had a combined cost of more than $500 million.

“After being cruelly cut by the Marshall Liberal Government when they were elected, a Malinauskas Government will get rail back to the heart of the Port,” Labor MP for Cheltenham Joe Szakacs posted on Facebook.

“This is an investment for the whole western community. It’s backing in local business and local jobs. And it’s part of Labor’s commitment to return our privatised trains back to public hands.”

The original Port Dock train service was axed in 1981 and the station later demolished to make way for a police station and Port Adelaide Magistrates Court, moving the nearest railway access to a station well south of the centre, near Commercial Road on the Outer Harbor line.

Port Adelaide Enfield Mayor Claire Boan said she is “really pleased” with Labor’s vision for the railway line but called for a broader public transport solution.

“We’ve been lobbying for better public transport across the whole of the peninsula for many many years … we don’t have effective public transport for the peninsula and also not enough trips per hour,” she said.

“[The spur line] doesn’t meet the needs of the greater peninsula but it certainly meets the needs of Port Adelaide, and the bus interchange is a really important part of that project.”

Boan said she has previously received assurances from the Department of Infrastructure and Transport that the Port Adelaide extension would not impact the frequency of services on the Outer Harbor line.

She also said council has plans to kick in funds to transform the Labor’s proposed station and bus interchange precinct into a “hub of activitiy”.

“It could be an art space, it could have live music, connecting through wayfinding to get into our heritage precinct and of course into Pirate Life who are big supporters of the Port Adelaide region as a whole,” she said.

“So we would see that this isn’t just a train and bus interchange, it’s actually a place that people can gather and that it would complement the heritage precinct.”

The mayor said she would be calling on the Liberals to match Labor’s pledge, although Transport Minister Corey Wingard was quick to rule that out on Wednesday.

“Like all of [Labor’s] other policies this one is unfunded and unplanned,” he said.

“The Labor party has proven it can’t be trusted with rail projects. It left the Gawler Rail Electrification Project in a shambles which we have been forced to fix.”

From: https://indaily.com.au/news/local/2022/ ... -on-track/

[PeFe]

Notice how on the map the "other" Port Adelaide is not shown, nor the Outer Harbor line......even the government believes the Port Dock extension is just duplicating services.

[Spotto]

Notice how on the map the "other" Port Adelaide is not shown, nor the Outer Harbor line......even the government believes the Port Dock extension is just duplicating services.

The line is shown by the light blue line, it’s just very deliberately not labelled nor the stations shown


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[TorrensSA]

I still think they should build a second station at Rosewater North (Edith Street). It's about 1km from Port Dock, 1.2km from Alberton and Port Adelaide is 1km walking, 1.5km driving, it's only like 650m as the crow flies.

Rosewater North would be very useful for people living east of the Grand Junction Road bridge. You could even build a Park and Ride.

It might just make the line a bit more viable.

[[Shuz]]

Not a bad idea. I can see there's a batch of units (housing commission?) adjacent. That part of Rosewater is a low socio economic area with a higher incidence of citizens who rely on public transport or those without access to, or ability to afford, driving a car. It would improve people's lives immensely. Worth writing to the new Minister for Transport in favour, I reckon.

[ChillyPhilly]

I hope Labor announce a plan to electrify the line sometime in coming years.

[TorrensSA]

Convert Outer Harbor line to light rail.

Grade seperate, David Tce, Woodville Rd, Cheltenham Pde and Port Rd. You would probably see up to 24 tph in peak direction on the core line. So grade seperation is needed.

Run trams to Outer Harbor, Grange (potentially Henley Beach / City if Airport / Henley tram is built) , Semaphore via Port Dock and West Lakes via Albert Park.

Run trams on each line about every 15min / 30min night (You could run shuttles to Grange (or West Lakes) with a cross platform transfer at Woodville)

Easiest option would have trams terminate at Adelaide Station instead of running via Thebarton (still have a connection at Bowden though, some trams could run this way)

With Adelaide Station you would expand into the (north) carpark to make Platforms 10 and 11. Trams would use platforms 8-11.

You would need to buy large trams.

Just an idea.

[ChillyPhilly]

Tram-trains were considered by the Rann-Weatherill Government but ditched for a few reasons:

- Outer Harbor was too far from the city for light rail. Light rail is better for shorter distances.
- The Torrens Junction project, underway at the time, would have been rendered useless.
- The need to rebuild the entire line, from the tracks, stations, signalling and more.

Trams to West Lakes, Semaphore and through Port Adelaide would be great.

[claybro]

Tram-trains were considered by the Rann-Weatherill Government but ditched for a few reasons:

- Outer Harbor was too far from the city for light rail. Light rail is better for shorter distances.
- The Torrens Junction project, underway at the time, would have been rendered useless.
- The need to rebuild the entire line, from the tracks, stations, signalling and more.

Trams to West Lakes, Semaphore and through Port Adelaide would be great.

Trams running from where? Woodville? This keeps coming up. Once the hybrid light/heavy rail was squashed as too difficult, it was then either /or, for the whole corridor. Those that pushed for heavy rail never seemed to understand though-that once heavy rail was decided on (at the time of the Port spur line), that was effectively the end of light rail for this corridor, and the northwest in general. It makes no economic or logistical sense for an isolated light rail system in a relatively low density environment like the northwest. Better connected buses, running from rail hubs would make more sense.

[rev]

Tram-trains were considered by the Rann-Weatherill Government but ditched for a few reasons:

- Outer Harbor was too far from the city for light rail. Light rail is better for shorter distances.
- The Torrens Junction project, underway at the time, would have been rendered useless.
- The need to rebuild the entire line, from the tracks, stations, signalling and more.

Trams to West Lakes, Semaphore and through Port Adelaide would be great.

Trams running from where? Woodville? This keeps coming up. Once the hybrid light/heavy rail was squashed as too difficult, it was then either /or, for the whole corridor. Those that pushed for heavy rail never seemed to understand though-that once heavy rail was decided on (at the time of the Port spur line), that was effectively the end of light rail for this corridor, and the northwest in general. It makes no economic or logistical sense for an isolated light rail system in a relatively low density environment like the northwest. Better connected buses, running from rail hubs would make more sense.

From where? Why not a coastal tram line or loop?
Port Adelaide, Semaphore/Largs, West lakes, Grange & Henley?

[[Shuz]]

Why does this silly obsession with trams on OH keep coming up? It's like fetch, it's never going to happen so stop trying to make it happen. Seriously get a grip on reality guys.