[U/C] M2 North-South Motorway

[SouthAussie94]

The @t2dproject instagram account has been silent since April 7th. Before this the account had been posting updates and info graphics every few days since October when the tunnel plan was announced. Such a drastic shift in the public relations strategy of the project suggests to me that significant changes are coming.

[aceman]

The @t2dproject instagram account has been silent since April 7th. Before this the account had been posting updates and info graphics every few days since October when the tunnel plan was announced. Such a drastic shift in the public relations strategy of the project suggests to me that significant changes are coming.

same thing with the T2D Facebook page. nothing posted since April 7. prior to that there were updates at least weekly with some weeks having updates and facts etc every few days. I think you're right though and labor are going back to the drawing board. in my travels recently I haven't taken any notice as to whether the core sampling that's happened along various locations just off the current south road is continuing or not.

[Nort]

The @t2dproject instagram account has been silent since April 7th. Before this the account had been posting updates and info graphics every few days since October when the tunnel plan was announced. Such a drastic shift in the public relations strategy of the project suggests to me that significant changes are coming.

same thing with the T2D Facebook page. nothing posted since April 7. prior to that there were updates at least weekly with some weeks having updates and facts etc every few days. I think you're right though and labor are going back to the drawing board. in my travels recently I haven't taken any notice as to whether the core sampling that's happened along various locations just off the current south road is continuing or not.

There's a lot of activity on side streets which to me looks like core sampling.

[aceman]

The @t2dproject instagram account has been silent since April 7th. Before this the account had been posting updates and info graphics every few days since October when the tunnel plan was announced. Such a drastic shift in the public relations strategy of the project suggests to me that significant changes are coming.

same thing with the T2D Facebook page. nothing posted since April 7. prior to that there were updates at least weekly with some weeks having updates and facts etc every few days. I think you're right though and labor are going back to the drawing board. in my travels recently I haven't taken any notice as to whether the core sampling that's happened along various locations just off the current south road is continuing or not.

There's a lot of activity on side streets which to me looks like core sampling.

the ones I've driven past that were actively running most days seem to have packed up with no one there. unless they've moved to a new site and haven't finished clearing the previous site.

[SRW]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/ ... /101179768

Mr Koutsantonis confirmed tunnels would remain part of the design on the section of the roads south of Anzac Highway and in the western suburbs areas.

"There will be tunnels, the question for us is the final design," he said.

[aceman]

anyone have an opinion on what major changes (if any) will be revealed in a few weeks in regards to the reference design? I'm assuming some tweaking will be required for the entry/exit points otherwise there will be major grid locking. there also still seems to be a lot of uncertainty surrounding property acquisition.

[Nort]

Apparently there is drilling on Brooker Terrace this week for tunnel ground sampling. Few hundred meters from the planned tunnel which is interesting.

[Eurostar]

That flyover proposed at Black Forest coming from South Road to Anzac Highway should be abandoned. We should not be encouraging cars to travel to and from the City. Express buses if they are to use the tunnel, the left lane should be a HV Lane primarily for buses and trucks.

Maybe on the South Road surface road a bus route should be trialled to run between Darlington and Wingfield to give people an alternative to driving.

[aceman]

That flyover proposed at Black Forest coming from South Road to Anzac Highway should be abandoned. We should not be encouraging cars to travel to and from the City. Express buses if they are to use the tunnel, the left lane should be a HV Lane primarily for buses and trucks.

Maybe on the South Road surface road a bus route should be trialled to run between Darlington and Wingfield to give people an alternative to driving.

I don't think it's about 'encouraging' cars to travel to and from the city. it's simply another entry exit point no different to all the other entry exit points. every other capital city in Australia has city exits from motorways.

[Nort]

That flyover proposed at Black Forest coming from South Road to Anzac Highway should be abandoned. We should not be encouraging cars to travel to and from the City. Express buses if they are to use the tunnel, the left lane should be a HV Lane primarily for buses and trucks.

Maybe on the South Road surface road a bus route should be trialled to run between Darlington and Wingfield to give people an alternative to driving.

I don't think it's about 'encouraging' cars to travel to and from the city. it's simply another entry exit point no different to all the other entry exit points. every other capital city in Australia has city exits from motorways.

Yeah. The seeming purpose of the flyover (which looks like it might get scrapped) isn't to help faster movement into the city, it's to prevent backups of traffic leaving the tunnel for the city and immediately stopping at the Anzac Highway lights.

[aceman]

That flyover proposed at Black Forest coming from South Road to Anzac Highway should be abandoned. We should not be encouraging cars to travel to and from the City. Express buses if they are to use the tunnel, the left lane should be a HV Lane primarily for buses and trucks.

Maybe on the South Road surface road a bus route should be trialled to run between Darlington and Wingfield to give people an alternative to driving.

I don't think it's about 'encouraging' cars to travel to and from the city. it's simply another entry exit point no different to all the other entry exit points. every other capital city in Australia has city exits from motorways.

Yeah. The seeming purpose of the flyover (which looks like it might get scrapped) isn't to help faster movement into the city, it's to prevent backups of traffic leaving the tunnel for the city and immediately stopping at the Anzac Highway lights.

that's exactly the point. insufficient exit points will just create a back up of traffic on the motorway itself. limiting exit points in an attempt to discourage cars from using the motorway won't work. it will just move the issue further down the road at the next exit. as tom k said this section needs to be done right otherwise it's a costly exercise to fix afterwards.

[Waewick]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/ ... /101179768

Mr Koutsantonis confirmed tunnels would remain part of the design on the section of the roads south of Anzac Highway and in the western suburbs areas.

"There will be tunnels, the question for us is the final design," he said.

The fact the worst politician in the country has any influence on this development is just horrendous.

He only has himself in mind, not the state.

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[gnrc_louis]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/ ... /101179768

Mr Koutsantonis confirmed tunnels would remain part of the design on the section of the roads south of Anzac Highway and in the western suburbs areas.

"There will be tunnels, the question for us is the final design," he said.

The fact the worst politician in the country has any influence on this development is just horrendous.

He only has himself in mind, not the state.

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Worst "politician in the country?" So he's worse than Matt Canavan? Malcolm Roberts? Gerrard Rennick? Three of the most anti-science, absurd conspiracy propagating politicians around, yet Koutsantonis is worse than that? You're delusional.

[A-Town]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-24/ ... /101179768

Mr Koutsantonis confirmed tunnels would remain part of the design on the section of the roads south of Anzac Highway and in the western suburbs areas.

"There will be tunnels, the question for us is the final design," he said.

The fact the worst politician in the country has any influence on this development is just horrendous.

He only has himself in mind, not the state.

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Agree with this take. Kouts comes across as one of the more self-serving politicians. It's a shame he took control of the state's most critical infrastructure project and that it's already been delayed by at least a year since Labor took back control.

Hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like a priority for them now.

[rev]

That flyover proposed at Black Forest coming from South Road to Anzac Highway should be abandoned. We should not be encouraging cars to travel to and from the City. Express buses if they are to use the tunnel, the left lane should be a HV Lane primarily for buses and trucks.

Maybe on the South Road surface road a bus route should be trialled to run between Darlington and Wingfield to give people an alternative to driving.

Yes, let's use our teleportation devices to get to/from the city.