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#196 Post by NTRabbit » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:22 pm

I hope they at least salvage all those trees that are just starting to grow, rather than mow them all down with a chainsaw

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#197 Post by marbles » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:58 pm

has it ever triggered to anyone to have at least a train station at the hospital?

considering that instead patients have to go into adelaide station, them somehow get up to north terrace, then catch a tram back, and then cross the traffic lights etc and all this on our frail people

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#198 Post by Llessur2002 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:11 pm

There have been various discussions about this - the latest is a few pages back on either this thread or the metropolitan rail thread (can't remember which).

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#199 Post by Smithy84 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:17 am

LendLease have been selected to deliver this project.

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#200 Post by rev » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:55 am

Smithy84 wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:17 am
LendLease have been selected to deliver this project.
Lovely, so we can mentally prepare our selves for a delay of at least 12-24 months. :lol:

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#201 Post by retsacerp » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:12 pm

Smithy84 wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:17 am
LendLease have been selected to deliver this project.
lendlease are in eci. while that (and their capability) makes it highly likely they will proceed to deliver it, they haven't been selected. high profile project with probity all over it.

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#202 Post by SRW » Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:19 pm

ABC reports $100 million cost blow out to Liberals nWCH plan and that the new Labor government will review the hospital's location:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-17/ ... /100995948
I'm sceptical that they'll change course now but I'd be delighted if they did move it off parkland.
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#203 Post by rev » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:26 pm

SRW wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:19 pm
ABC reports $100 million cost blow out to Liberals nWCH plan and that the new Labor government will review the hospital's location:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-17/ ... /100995948
I'm sceptical that they'll change course now but I'd be delighted if they did move it off parkland.
Theyve already said it will be at the bio med precinct.

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#204 Post by gnrc_louis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:54 pm

What about the site proposed for the basketball stadium by the previous government? :D

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#205 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:35 am

SRW wrote:ABC reports $100 million cost blow out to Liberals nWCH plan and that the new Labor government will review the hospital's location:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-17/ ... /100995948
I'm sceptical that they'll change course now but I'd be delighted if they did move it off parkland.
The current plan does need a rethink.
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#206 Post by rev » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:20 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:35 am
SRW wrote:ABC reports $100 million cost blow out to Liberals nWCH plan and that the new Labor government will review the hospital's location:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-17/ ... /100995948
I'm sceptical that they'll change course now but I'd be delighted if they did move it off parkland.
The current plan does need a rethink.
What's wrong with it exactly? Location? Capacity?

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#207 Post by rev » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:28 pm

Tuesday, Aug 23, 2022

'A fantasy': New hospital deadline delayed


The Malinauskas Government says the former Marshall Government’s target to start building the new $2 billion Women’s and Children’s Hospital this year is “a fantasy” and a review into the project’s cost and location is still underway.

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A government website for the new Women’s and Children’s Hospital (WCH) project currently states that construction is “scheduled to commence in late 2022” ahead of the hospital’s anticipated opening in 2027.

The construction start date was first announced by the former Marshall Government in February following the appointment of Lendlease as the project’s managing contractor.

Health Minister Chris Picton told InDaily that the timeframe was based off a “flawed” plan.

“Upon coming to Government, it is clear this project was already suffering from blowouts to cost and construction timeframes under the Liberals,” he said.

“The Liberals suggestion that construction could start this year was a fantasy and based off a plan that was clearly flawed after four years of delays and missed opportunities.”

But the Opposition has accused Labor of “intentionally delaying another critical state infrastructure project that was stacked up ready to go”.

Picton said the contract with Lendlease remained intact, with the company working on the project planning.

A spokesperson from Lendlease said it was “continuing to work with the state and the design team to progress the development of the new Women’s and Children’s Hospital”.

The former Marshall Government announced it would build the hospital at the railyards site next to the Royal Adelaide Hospital for $1.95 billion.

According to the project’s website, two independent reviews and two Department for Infrastructure and Transport reviews showed the cost of the hospital had since blown out to $2.05 billion.

That compares with the $2.3 billion cost of the new Royal Adelaide Hospital, which was reported to be Australia’s most expensive building when it opened in 2017.

Former state coordinator-general Jim Hallion is currently conducting an additional cost review, which will consider alternative sites for the new hospital.

InDaily asked Picton which other sites the government was considering but did not receive a response.

“We need to make sure we get this right and that’s why we have brought in eminent infrastructure expert Jim Hallion to identify the best possible site for the new WCH and identify the true cost of the project as it stood and site options,” he said.

Picton told reporters in April that the proposed railyards site presented a “range of complexities”, due to its small footprint and triangular shape.

He said it would be beneficial to have the hospital situated next to the Royal Adelaide Hospital, but location had to be balanced against limitations such as size.

Making proposed plot’s size more challenging is the government’s election commitment to spend $100 million fitting in an extra 50 beds into wards such as cancer and mental health.

Asked in February whether the election policy would delay the hospital’s scheduled 2027 opening, then Opposition leader Peter Malinauskas said: “we don’t believe so”.

Picton told InDaily the government remained committed to delivering on its promise, saying that under the Marshall Government’s plan, the hospital would have had one less paediatric and adolescent overnight bed.

“We must make sure this project delivers for the long term, with future growth capacity for decades to come,” he said.

“We are embracing the opportunity to build a purpose-built, state-of-the-art, world class hospital that will provide care and treatment for women and children for future generations.”

The Opposition’s health spokesperson Ashton Hurn questioned Labor’s history with the new Women’s and Children’s Hospital, after the party controversially scrapped plans to redevelop it ahead of the 2018 election.

“Since the (2022) election, they are using every excuse under the sun to justify their delay,” she told InDaily.

“Labor has put the delivery into the slow lane.

“When they ordered the review they said it would take weeks rather than months. Now we learn that they won’t even start the build this year.

“Labor is intentionally delaying another critical state infrastructure project that was stacked up ready to go.”

Meanwhile, the government is considering how it will transform the current Women’s and Children’s Hospital site in North Adelaide once the replacement hospital is built.

Planning Minister Nick Champion told InDaily in June that Renewal SA had been asked to conduct preliminary investigations into future uses for the site.

He said the investigations would examine possible engineering challenges and include market research.

“No decisions will be made on the future of the site until the new Women’s and Children’s Hospital is progressed,” he said.

“In the meantime, Renewal SA’s conceptual work will continue.”

Selling the current Women’s and Children’s Hospital site to a private developer would present a lucrative opportunity for the state government, given it spans a major landholding of five allotments over two site areas, overlooks the park lands and is close to key landmarks including Adelaide Oval and St Peter’s Cathedral.

The government could also decide to redevelop the site, as it did with the old Royal Adelaide Hospital on North Terrace, which is now the Lot Fourteen innovation precinct housing research and technology companies, as well as a soon-to-be-built Entrepreneur and Innovation Centre and Tarrkarri Centre for First Nations Cultures.

Lord Mayor Sandy Verschoor told InDaily in March that she wanted the state government to partner with the Adelaide City Council to redevelop the site.

“While Council has no formal position on future development at the current Women’s and Children’s Hospital site, there is enormous potential to create something which can help shape our city for generations to come,” she said at the time.
https://indaily.com.au/news/2022/08/23/ ... e-delayed/

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#208 Post by ndru_01 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:39 pm

rev wrote: Asked in February whether the election policy would delay the hospital’s scheduled 2027 opening, then Opposition leader Peter Malinauskas said: “we don’t believe so”.
If a new new site is identified then its a complete redesign, which will take time to finish.


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#209 Post by rev » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:45 pm

This is just Labor playing politics at our expense, hoping the voting public are dumb enough to buy into the eventual blame the Libs game.

If this project wasn't ready to go at the end of the year like the previous government said would happen, then why can't the new Labor government show us why? Show us, don't tell us and say "trust me bro"..
Same goes for the North South corridor...delays because "trust me bro".

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#210 Post by ndru_01 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:48 pm

Wonder if the additional capacity Labor promised for the nWCH during the election had any impact on feasibility of the site the previous government had been working to. May never know…


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