[COM] 52-66 King William Street | 65m | 15 Levels | Southern Cross Arcade

[gnrc_louis]

From this morning.

If only it was taller, it would be a diamond in the skyline. Another missed opportunity for Adelaide.

its average height for a KW street building. At least its new and not run down and dilapidated like the rest of the street.

Lol the rest of King William is certainly not “dilapidated.”

[abc]

If only it was taller, it would be a diamond in the skyline. Another missed opportunity for Adelaide.

its average height for a KW street building. At least its new and not run down and dilapidated like the rest of the street.

Lol the rest of King William is certainly not “dilapidated.”

It is. Walk down any main street of a capital city in Australia. KW is the most run down of any.

[gnrc_louis]

its average height for a KW street building. At least its new and not run down and dilapidated like the rest of the street.

Lol the rest of King William is certainly not “dilapidated.”

It is. Walk down any main street of a capital city in Australia. KW is the most run down of any.

There’s plenty of dilapidated shopfronts in Melbourne and their CBD has a great vibe. Canberra on the other hand is super new and clean and it’s an extremely boring place.

[rev]

its average height for a KW street building. At least its new and not run down and dilapidated like the rest of the street.

Lol the rest of King William is certainly not “dilapidated.”

It is. Walk down any main street of a capital city in Australia. KW is the most run down of any.

Can you name the main streets of the capitals? How many of them have you walked down?

[Mr Smith]

Lol the rest of King William is certainly not “dilapidated.”

It is. Walk down any main street of a capital city in Australia. KW is the most run down of any.

Can you name the main streets of the capitals? How many of them have you walked down?

St Georges Tce, Perth - Far more impressive,
Collins St, Melb - Far more impressive
George St, Sydney - Far more impressive
Eagle St, Brisbane - Far more impressive.

King William St is not even close to being comparable to the streets listed above and is very average as a main street in so far as imposing buidings go, there can be little argument there. IMO, North Tce has become Adelaide's premier boulevard, if it wasn't already.

[Vasco]

In regards to the northern end from Vic sq;

For one the pavers on KWS are dodgy and always in disgusting condition.

Not many modern quality buildings on the strip.

Some of the heritage buildings are in decent condition / refurbishment and upkeep, some are pretty shitty.

A lot of tired 60s - 80s architecture within minimal upkeep / refurb.

Hopefully with GPO redevelopment and this project it will slowly start to get better.


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[abc]

Lol the rest of King William is certainly not “dilapidated.”

It is. Walk down any main street of a capital city in Australia. KW is the most run down of any.

Can you name the main streets of the capitals? How many of them have you walked down?

you sound like you need a holiday

[dbl96]

In regards to the northern end from Vic sq;

For one the pavers on KWS are dodgy and always in disgusting condition.

Not many modern quality buildings on the strip.

Some of the heritage buildings are in decent condition / refurbishment and upkeep, some are pretty shitty.

A lot of tired 60s - 80s architecture within minimal upkeep / refurb.

Hopefully with GPO redevelopment and this project it will slowly start to get better.


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King William St North is really not that bad. It has decent paving and landscaping, it is well built up, and there is little in the way of dilapidated, unsightly and underwhelming buildings other than the old Adelaide Metro service centre on the corner of Currie St, and the Singapore Airlines building near Rundle Mall. The same cannot be said for other prime CBD streets like Flinders St, Currie St and Grenfell St and King William St South. Grenfell/Currie has some decent buildings, but the street itself is a scar on the city - wall to wall tacky concrete and rutted asphalt with not a tree in sight. King William St South is an ugly collection of underwhelming low rise buildings from the late 20th century, with concrete block footpaths that are so corroded they are uncomfortable to walk on.

Generally the Adelaide City Council does an absolutely appauling job with landscaping. The vast majority of footpaths are rutted concrete or asphalt paving not befitting the centre of a state capital. Got to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane etc and you will find that there is now a general policy of paving all footpaths and gutters with the kind of high-quality stone finish that has been used in Rundle Mall and the north side of North Terrace. Most metropolitan councils do a better job with footpaths than the ACC, despite CBD footpaths having the highest traffic of any in the state. Street trees and greenery are shunned in most of Adelaide because they would take away road space from the ACC's sacred on-street car parking.

The amenity of Adelaide's CBD is falling behind the rest of the country. By placing undue emphasis on making it convenient for people to drive in the city, at the expense of greenery and high-quality pedestrian infrastructure, the ACC has left much of the CBD as an ugly and unpleasant place.

[Nathan]

Generally the Adelaide City Council does an absolutely appauling job with landscaping. The vast majority of footpaths are rutted concrete or asphalt paving not befitting the centre of a state capital. Got to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane etc and you will find that there is now a general policy of paving all footpaths and gutters with the kind of high-quality stone finish that has been used in Rundle Mall and the north side of North Terrace. Most metropolitan councils do a better job with footpaths than the ACC, despite CBD footpaths having the highest traffic of any in the state. Street trees and greenery are shunned in most of Adelaide because they would take away road space from the ACC's sacred on-street car parking.

On top of that, ACC is very lax an enforcing footpaths be restored properly when torn up for services work or for construction. There are so many instances of paving being "temporarily" replaced with bitumen along North Tce, and then never thought about again.

[VinyTapestry849]

Honestly, It gives me New York city vibes, just the plain and dilapidated concrete everywhere with little greenery.

[Patrick_27]

Having lived in Melbourne for five years, I don’t know what people are referring to.. The layering of buildings might be impressive in parts (namely the grand heritage buildings on Collins Street) but their footpaths are nothing special, nor is there any consistency in the quality of finishes. They’ve done some work on replacing bluestone gutters in recent years with darkened concrete but typically their footpaths are bitumen and their ‘landscaping’ is plane trees. Bourke Street Mall is probably the only deviation from this with lighter pavers and planter boxes. The blemishes in their streetscapes are typically hidden by the shadowing of the buildings or the masses of people. Melbourne also doesn’t have the public space in the CBD that we often times take for granted here in Adelaide. Sure, some of the buildings along KSW are daggy but overall it’s no different to say Elizabeth Street in Melbourne.

[SRW]

Grenfell/Currie has some decent buildings, but the street itself is a scar on the city - wall to wall tacky concrete and rutted asphalt with not a tree in sight. King William St South is an ugly collection of underwhelming low rise buildings from the late 20th century, with concrete block footpaths that are so corroded they are uncomfortable to walk on.

Generally the Adelaide City Council does an absolutely appauling job with landscaping. The vast majority of footpaths are rutted concrete or asphalt paving not befitting the centre of a state capital. Got to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane etc and you will find that there is now a general policy of paving all footpaths and gutters with the kind of high-quality stone finish that has been used in Rundle Mall and the north side of North Terrace. Most metropolitan councils do a better job with footpaths than the ACC, despite CBD footpaths having the highest traffic of any in the state. Street trees and greenery are shunned in most of Adelaide because they would take away road space from the ACC's sacred on-street car parking.

The amenity of Adelaide's CBD is falling behind the rest of the country. By placing undue emphasis on making it convenient for people to drive in the city, at the expense of greenery and high-quality pedestrian infrastructure, the ACC has left much of the CBD as an ugly and unpleasant place.

Strong agree.

(Although I note that the corroded pavers in front of the old Trims in KWS South are currently being replaced [but not upgraded]).

Several new members of the council (presuming the election is upheld) noted footpath maintenance in their candidate profiles, so here's hoping they deliver.

[abc]

most of your phone watchers only look down it seems

I look straight ahead and around and sometimes up. I also live in the city so I see it every day. I worked in KW street in the 90's and noughties and I can tell you its only declined in that time.
and yes I've walked down the main street of other Australian capital cities and there is no comparison.

[dbl96]

Having lived in Melbourne for five years, I don’t know what people are referring to.. The layering of buildings might be impressive in parts (namely the grand heritage buildings on Collins Street) but their footpaths are nothing special, nor is there any consistency in the quality of finishes. They’ve done some work on replacing bluestone gutters in recent years with darkened concrete but typically their footpaths are bitumen and their ‘landscaping’ is plane trees. Bourke Street Mall is probably the only deviation from this with lighter pavers and planter boxes. The blemishes in their streetscapes are typically hidden by the shadowing of the buildings or the masses of people. Melbourne also doesn’t have the public space in the CBD that we often times take for granted here in Adelaide. Sure, some of the buildings along KSW are daggy but overall it’s no different to say Elizabeth Street in Melbourne.

The improvements I am talking about in Melbourne (and Sydney and Brisbane) are relatively recent. They haven't finished putting the high quality pavers everywhere, but it is clearly the plan to do so. Most of the pavers appear relatively recently laid, and in all three cities I have seen new projects to lay them under way. You are right that there are still stretches of run-of-the-mill asphalt footpaths in Melbourne, but most of the main streets at least now have high quality paving.

[AndyWelsh]

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