[U/C] Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 130m | 39 levels

All high-rise, low-rise and street developments in the Adelaide and North Adelaide areas.
Message
Author
User avatar
SRW
Donating Member
Donating Member
Posts: 3658
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:42 pm
Location: Glenelg

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#376 Post by SRW » Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:41 pm

I'm surprised (or maybe unsurprised) Council has not placed strict timelines on this as part of its development agreement.
Keep Adelaide Weird

User avatar
[Shuz]
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 3301
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:26 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#377 Post by [Shuz] » Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:48 pm

Well, one would have thought that they would have imposed conditions in order to maximise rates revenue sooner upon opening. It seems ludicrous that they would forfeit up to a year's - if not more, worth of rates? Granted, a year is nothing given the tower itself will be around for 100+ years plus, but you'd think they'd want to recoup some of the development costs now?
Any views and opinions expressed are of my own, and do not reflect the views or opinions of any organisation of which I have an affiliation with.

Jaymz
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1033
Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:12 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#378 Post by Jaymz » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:05 pm

That run-down hole of an arcade that closed May last year was my run-down hole of an arcade. They better replace it quick smart with something good!

User avatar
gnrc_louis
Legendary Member!
Posts: 981
Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:04 pm
Location: Adelaide

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#379 Post by gnrc_louis » Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:51 pm


User avatar
[Shuz]
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 3301
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:26 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#380 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:14 pm

3.5 years to build this!? I know it's a large site but jeez I've seen taller buildings and bigger blocks on the East Coast go up in far less time than that.
Any views and opinions expressed are of my own, and do not reflect the views or opinions of any organisation of which I have an affiliation with.

abc
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1221
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:35 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#381 Post by abc » Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm

what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
tired of low IQ hacks

User avatar
Algernon
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 1629
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:46 pm
Location: Moravia

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#382 Post by Algernon » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:14 pm

abc wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm
what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
The war "against Russia"

You'd really drop to that level to troll people

Nort
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 2296
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:08 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#383 Post by Nort » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:27 am

abc wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm
what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
Who is "they"?

abc
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1221
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:35 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#384 Post by abc » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:23 am

Algernon wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:14 pm
abc wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm
what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
The war "against Russia"

You'd really drop to that level to troll people
:? who else are we at war against?
tired of low IQ hacks

abc
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1221
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:35 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#385 Post by abc » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:24 am

Nort wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:27 am
abc wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm
what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
Who is "they"?
the indaily article
tired of low IQ hacks

Nort
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 2296
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:08 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#386 Post by Nort » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:48 am

abc wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:23 am
Algernon wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:14 pm
abc wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm
what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
The war "against Russia"

You'd really drop to that level to troll people
:? who else are we at war against?
Australia isn't currently at war with anyone.

Nort
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 2296
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:08 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#387 Post by Nort » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:49 am

abc wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:24 am
Nort wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:27 am
abc wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm
what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
Who is "they"?
the indaily article
The indaily article was about the timeline changes to the project. Can you cite your source for laminated timber restrictions having an impact on the timeline changes to this development?

User avatar
AG
VIP Member
VIP Member
Posts: 2099
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:44 am
Location: Adelaide SA

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#388 Post by AG » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:24 am

abc wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:54 pm
what they wont tell you is the war against Russia and sanctions has cut the supply chain of laminated timber widely used in the construction industry
What you are saying about the sanctions on Russia impacting on the supply of laminated timber to the construction industry is correct. There would be some impact on timber formwork for concrete structural elements, however, structural laminated timber has not been specified for this project. There is evidence that Russia is getting around these sanctions via China though.

Prodical
Legendary Member!
Posts: 603
Joined: Sun May 15, 2016 5:10 pm

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#389 Post by Prodical » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:52 pm

From today's In Daily

Central Market tower now higher: More apartments, more expensive

The Central Market Arcade redevelopment will climb another two levels to 39 storeys and include 21 more apartments, with the Adelaide City Council’s contribution jumping by more than $9 million.

Major works on the $400 million project, which involves demolishing the ageing Central Market Arcade and building a new retail space and office, hotel and residential tower, have also been pushed back until June.

The council has increased its spend on the project by $9.3 million more than originally planned, contributing a total of $31.92 million plus GST.

Changes approved by the council at a confidential meeting last night include increasing the overall height of the Grote Street tower by two storeys – meaning it will now be 39-storeys high – and building an additional 21 apartments.

The council has also agreed to relocate residential car parks to the basement and to increase loading zones for traders.

Retail balconies will be built on the Grote Street façade of the building, and the podium rooftop space will be lowered from level five to level four.

Lord Mayor Jane Lomax-Smith told InDaily that the changes came about during discussions to improve the building’s air-conditioning system.

She said construction costs had also risen by more than 20 per cent, with major projects across the world currently hampered by supply chain issues and skilled worker shortages.

“There’s been a cost escalation and a change in the style of the fit-out and the council therefore has invested more money,” she said.

“At the same time, the cost escalation has forced the developer into making changes as well that they wanted and for their cost escalation they have chosen to put an extra two levels of residential accommodation on.

“There are lots of things happening at once and this is the compromise to allow everyone to proceed.”

Construction on the new building – to be called “Market Square” – was originally set to begin in 2021 ahead of an anticipated opening next year.

But the project’s timelines have been pushed back several times, most recently in November following a request from the Adelaide Central Market Authority to suspend work until February to avoid construction impacts on traders over Christmas.

Lomax-Smith told InDaily last month that major construction works would start in autumn, with the build to take about three years.

The council this morning announced that major works would start in June.

“It’s been delayed multiple times and the current delay is related to the requirement to get a building planning amendment because they’re putting extra apartments on the height and that requires development approval – not by Council but by SCAP (State Commission Assessment Panel),” Lomax-Smith said.

“We hope it would only take six weeks, but we have to understand that these things take time – we can’t hurry them.

“Therefore, conservatively, we’d say that within three months it should be ready to roll.”

InDaily contacted ICD Property CEO Matt Khoo for comment.

In a media release, Khoo said it was “no secret” that the construction industry was currently under pressure around the world.

He said ICD Property had been able to “safeguard Market Square from the worst of it”.

“We are thrilled to be partnering with the City of Adelaide to deliver this transformative development that will be a true source of local pride and a must-visit tourist destination,” he said.

“Adelaide is a fantastic city with a bright future and we couldn’t be more proud to be contributing to its success.”

The council estimates that the project will deliver a “$135 million boost to the South Australian economy”.

Once complete, ICD Property will own and manage the central tower, which will include the supermarket, residential, office and hotel component of the development, as well as an elevated 3000-square-metre public terrace.

The bottom floors will be connected to the Central Market and will include a range of food, wine and homewares shops, as well as restaurants, cafés and bars.

ICD Property has pre-sold over 96 per cent of the apartments and recently announced that HEI Schools had signed a 10-year lease to become the operator of Market Square childcare centre.

User avatar
SRW
Donating Member
Donating Member
Posts: 3658
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:42 pm
Location: Glenelg

[U/C] Re: Central Market Arcade Redevelopment | 124m | 38 levels

#390 Post by SRW » Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:39 pm

Original:
Image
Image
Image

Revised:
Image
Image
Image

It doesn't seem like there's anything too objectionable? The retail balconies to Grote Street are stupid (too exposed to be useful and the protraction detracts from façade versus recessed previously), and the render indicates that the garden structure on the podium will be less grand and a new market entrance not included. But otherwise minimal change, and the stupid pods survive in the laneway. I'd like to think that the 20 new apartments will be affordable to justify the council's extra spend, but I won't hold my breath.
Keep Adelaide Weird

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], Eurostar, floplo, Majestic-12 [Bot] and 4 guests