[COM] 52-66 King William Street | 65m | 15 Levels | Southern Cross Arcade

[abc]

all smart technology does is make life more complicated than it needs to be

[Ursus Maritimus]

To the building managers' credit and Schindler's credit, the issues have been pretty much resolved.

They set up a TV screen near the lifts, playing a tutorial on loop about how to use smart lifts (sounds ridiculous, I know. It says things like make sure every passenger requests a lift, but only one request per passenger). More lifts seem to be active during peak times than before, and Schindler probably did some reprogramming in the back end.

The long waits, breakdowns, and stopping to pick up people when it's already full, have seemingly disappeared.

[shiftaling]

...and the air conditioning maintains an absolutely perfect temperature no matter what's happening outside - no hot or cold spots or moments.

How's that one working out?

[prometheus2704]

Random thought from when I was walking through the mall just after the shops had closed and needed a toilet... Wasn't part of the deal with this site getting the old public bathrooms for their building that they had to provide new publicly accessible bathrooms?

The bathrooms they've built in the arcade are only accessible when the building itself is publicly accessible during core business hours...

[SRW]

Random thought from when I was walking through the mall just after the shops had closed and needed a toilet... Wasn't part of the deal with this site getting the old public bathrooms for their building that they had to provide new publicly accessible bathrooms?

The bathrooms they've built in the arcade are only accessible when the building itself is publicly accessible during core business hours...

I don't think it was a requirement for the new building, more a justification for the council to remove community title and sell the land. IIRC, it was always expected that they would be restricted to opening hours which was a significant downside.

[Will]

from realestate.com:

[Pistol]

Stunning building!

[AndyWelsh]

Bottega Bandito taking one of the units of this development fronting James Place:








“BOTTEGA BANDITO IS A MODERN DELICATESSEN AND CAFE IN THE HEART OF PROSPECT, SISTER VENUE TO ANCHOVY BANDIT.”


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[Ursus Maritimus]

I thought people would be interested to read that we had our first fire drill a couple of weeks back. I was pretty disappointed with the evacuation time - it took a good 7 to 10 minutes to get from my desk to the street.

The fire stairs didn't seem to be wide enough for the number of people present, causing a lot of stopping and waiting for others to enter the stairwell. I feel like I would have died had it been a real fire. I guess that's the risk we all take when we work in tall buildings, so it's an interesting tidbit but not a big deal.

[SBD]

I thought people would be interested to read that we had our first fire drill a couple of weeks back. I was pretty disappointed with the evacuation time - it took a good 7 to 10 minutes to get from my desk to the street.

The fire stairs didn't seem to be wide enough for the number of people present, causing a lot of stopping and waiting for others to enter the stairwell. I feel like I would have died had it been a real fire. I guess that's the risk we all take when we work in tall buildings, so it's an interesting tidbit but not a big deal.

I wonder if the wardens learned something from that experience and there will be another drill with staged evacuation by floor or something to reduce the waiting. Are there Australian standards for evacuating buildings or at least reaching concrete stairwells? I was told that if I couldn't use fire escape stairs, I should shelter on the landing and be considered safe for several hours until firefighters came to rescue me.

Around the same time the wardens gave that advice, Management determined that I took too long to evacuate on the non-protected stairs, and got a consultant report that I should work on the ground floor.

[Ursus Maritimus]

The post-drill email mentioned this being Adelaide's largest office building in terms of employee numbers, and that they'll learn from the experience. I don't think the idea of evacuating one floor at a time is realistic in a real fire when people are in mortal danger. If I'm not wrong, modern fire stairs are protected well enough so that the fire and smoke won't penetrate.

On a trivial note, I was impressed that the building managers had the windows cleaned a few days ago, nine months after we moved in and before they got too dirty. For a building where the floor-to-ceiling windows are such a prominent feature, you'd hope they're clean.

[A-Town]

The post-drill email mentioned this being Adelaide's largest office building in terms of employee numbers, and that they'll learn from the experience. I don't think the idea of evacuating one floor at a time is realistic in a real fire when people are in mortal danger. If I'm not wrong, modern fire stairs are protected well enough so that the fire and smoke won't penetrate.

Real life fire evacuation alarms are staggered per floor. They will initially sound on the floor where the fire alarm was activated, the floor above and the floor below, and then continue floor by floor above and below per one minute intervals until it's sounding on all floors.

Fire stairwells indeed are protected for a certain time period, but I believe the staggered approach is to reduce the likelihood of a crush in the stairwell.

[ChillyPhilly]

We also had a fire evacuation drill a couple weeks ago in my office building. Thirteen levels (12 as working spaces/office suites). About seven minutes to full evacuation, which is around the mark.

I spoke to the trainer, and he said that Australian standards in newer buildings are/will enforce wider fire exit staircases due to rising obesity rates - not only do larger people take up more space and generally move slower, but their gait takes up more room too.

Still not much progress on the evacuation of people using mobility aids: move them to a stairwell and tell them to wait, then notify Fire and the Chief Warden.

7 minutes for 52-66 KWS is probably about the mark but definitely room for improvement.