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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion

#286 Post by AtD » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:27 pm

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#287 Post by AG » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:34 am

$2m boost for Port heritage RUSSELL EMMERSON
November 01, 2007 01:15am

A $2 MILLION fund has been established to provide public art spaces for the Newport Quays development at Port Adelaide.

Up to 10 spaces will be established under the fund, which was a condition negotiated by the State Government as part of the development.

Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon said the installations would make use of abandoned items collected during development.

"They will enable artists to weave elements of the dock heritage into contemporary artworks, bringing memories of the Port's past into a project that is a critical part of the community's future," Mr Conlon said.

The art, to be commissioned by joint venture members Multiplex and Urban Construct, would draw on the area's history, Newport Quays spokesman Todd Brown said.

"Public art is a critical element in the development of Newport Quays, and will commemorate the vibrant heritage of Port Adelaide," he said.

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#288 Post by rev » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:49 pm

jimmy_2486 wrote:Its a waste of money implementing a tram sevice along port road. We have a rail corridor like 100m away, just use that for light/heavy rail?
With that logic, what do you think of the bus services that run along Port Road, parallel to the train line?

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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion

#289 Post by bmw boy » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:00 pm

rev wrote:
jimmy_2486 wrote:Its a waste of money implementing a tram sevice along port road. We have a rail corridor like 100m away, just use that for light/heavy rail?
With that logic, what do you think of the bus services that run along Port Road, parallel to the train line?
Busses obviously stop much more frequently. Train and Tram services would be pretty similar. No point of having all 3.

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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion

#290 Post by jimmy_2486 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:54 pm

rev wrote:
jimmy_2486 wrote:Its a waste of money implementing a tram sevice along port road. We have a rail corridor like 100m away, just use that for light/heavy rail?
With that logic, what do you think of the bus services that run along Port Road, parallel to the train line?
Well im sure if it was somehow possible to use buses on railway tracks, then wouldnt that be more efficient than using port road, as port road buses have to stop at lights and get stuck in traffic??

But this isnt fantasy land and buses cant drive on train tracks cant they?

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#291 Post by rhino » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:59 am

bmw boy wrote: Busses obviously stop much more frequently. Train and Tram services would be pretty similar. No point of having all 3.
Have a look at Melbourne - trams stop as frequently as busses.
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#292 Post by Edgar » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:47 pm

The industrial look ruins it. But that is what a port is about anyway. So I really don't know if the new developments around the port could change the image of Port Adelaide forever.
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#293 Post by ynotsfables » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:46 am

Fremantle looked far worse than Port Adelaide once now look at it. Secondly to mention the tram once again, correct me if i'm wrong but did n't it once go down Port Road many moons ago?

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#294 Post by AtD » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:57 am

ynotsfables wrote:Fremantle looked far worse than Port Adelaide once now look at it. Secondly to mention the tram once again, correct me if i'm wrong but did n't it once go down Port Road many moons ago?
I don't think they did, at least not the entire way.
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#295 Post by AG » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:02 pm

Parts of Port Road did have trams at some stage, but they were part of the Port Adelaide tram network, separate from the rest of Adelaide's former tram network.

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#296 Post by pushbutton » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:27 pm

jimmy_2486 wrote:
rev wrote:
jimmy_2486 wrote: Well im sure if it was somehow possible to use buses on railway tracks, then wouldnt that be more efficient than using port road, as port road buses have to stop at lights and get stuck in traffic??

But this isnt fantasy land and buses cant drive on train tracks cant they?
Of course buses can travel on tracks. Go to Tea Tree Plaza and take a look for yourself (or take a ride on it for that matter). It's called the O-bahn busway. As far as I'm concerned that is the overall best form of public transport.

It's fast (buses can travel up to 100 km/hr on the tracks)

It's flexible (buses can come off the tracks and travel on any road)

It's accessible (whereas something like a monorail can be potentially difficult for elderly, disabled people to get on and off)

Capacity can easily be changed by adding or subtracting buses

It doesn't require a lot of expensive infrastructure like electrified railways or trams or monorails, all it needs is a concrete track and appropriate buses.

That seems right now to be the ONLY problem with it, it's difficult to get the right type of buses for some reason. I can't see why though, I would have though similar systems would be very popular all over the world (for all the above reasons).

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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion

#297 Post by stumpjumper » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:14 am

Sorry to prolong the Port tram debnate, but the first requirement is passengers wanting to make the journey. What's the proposed route? Is it already serviced? Would trams do it better? If so, could the other service be removed?

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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion

#298 Post by jimmy_2486 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:06 pm

Yeah well problem is with what ur saying pushbutton is....

Your proposing to make another obahn to goto port adelaide, say in the middle of port road?? Why cant we just overhang a few cables on the current corridor near port road, maybe lay multi gauge tracks, and run trams??? Wouldnt that be cheaper to implement, more greener, and more cost efficient in terms of running costs?

North Eastern suburbs only have 1 corridor which is the o-bahn, north west suburbs already have 1 corridor, so why make another one?

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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion

#299 Post by Pikey » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:09 am

How about we keep tram discussion in the appropriate threads?
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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion

#300 Post by Ben » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:43 am

Has anyone seen this site? I accidently clicked on it and found a lot of info on this project:

http://www.homeportproperty.com.au/proj ... agodu3kC9g

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