Cedar Woods Glenside

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#31 Post by EBG » Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:15 pm

Have to wait until all that scaffolding is removed before determining the final appearance

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#32 Post by Will » Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:23 am

From realestate.com:
The second release of Bloom at Glenside is now selling and construction is due to commence in May 2024.

Welcome to Bloom, a prestigious over 55’s community, an address for the discerning homeowner. A place you will love to live.
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#33 Post by Will » Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:25 am

Also from realestate.com, showing progress at the site:

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#34 Post by dbl96 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:26 pm

Housing Minister Nick Champion backs 20-storey residential apartment tower heights for Glenside
Apartment towers of up to 20 storeys are proposed for Adelaide’s inner east and the new “super” Housing Minister wants to talk about more.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 47fb8b9e92

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Increasing building heights and density along major urban corridors is being proposed by newly minted “super” Housing Minister Nick Champion as he moves to allow towers of up to 20 storeys in a 1.2ha parcel of inner-eastern Glenside.

In his first significant action since being promoted in a ministerial reshuffle on Monday, Mr Champion wants to raise maximum building heights in the land tract from eight storeys, or 29m, to 20 storeys, or 73m.

Stressing no final decision had been made, he said the Glenside area had been identified as a key strategic infill site, because of proximity to parklands, shops, major roads and public transport.

The nearby Air Apartments tower, the former ETSA building on the corner of Fullarton and Greenhill roads, is 14 storeys high.

“It’s important as a community we have thoughtful conversations about increasing building heights and densities in strategic sites, such as major urban corridors,” Mr Champion told The Advertiser.

Concept plans for the proposal, by developer Cedar Woods, show three to four residential towers but there is no indication of how many apartments would be in the proposed 20 storeys.

The proposed buildings are within the existing 16.5ha Glenside development area, which is projected to deliver 1000 homes and an estimated $400m of investment.

The concept plans show the buildings of up to 20 storeys within an area bounded by Tea Tree St, Blue Gum Drv, Mulberry Rd and Lomandra Ave, which is to the east of Fullarton Rd and south of Greenhill Rd.
Mr Champion said he had asked the developer for plans to mitigate potential impacts, such as overshadowing and privacy, after initiating a planning code amendment.

“There is also the requirement to justify the increase in height in relation to existing corridors and the need to focus on housing diversity and affordability,” he said.

“As part of the code amendment process, further investigations will be undertaken on traffic and social impacts before it opens for community consultation later in the year.”

He said the planning system was currently assessing 34 active residential planning code amendments, which had the potential to create more than 23,000 homes.
Premier Peter Malinauskas on Monday handed Mr Champion a “new super portfolio”, declaring housing was “top of the list” of “some big challenges” faced by the state at a “critical juncture” in history.

The expanded Housing portfolio includes SA Water, Plan SA and the Office of Regional Housing.

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#35 Post by SRW » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:28 pm

Concept images from the article and the presumed location:
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I highly doubt this design concept makes it even if the proposal overcomes all the hurdles.
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#36 Post by Mpol02 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:53 pm

A shame because this is awesome.

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#37 Post by [Shuz] » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:03 am

Jesus Christ, no. 20 storeys should never be allowed here. That is just beyond excessive.
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#38 Post by rev » Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:29 am

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This is where they need to be backing high rise residential developments. Look how much potential there is here..how many thousands of new residents could be accommodated if all the low-rise areas had high rise apartment buildings.
This mindless push of highrise in the suburbs is ridiculous and needs to stop, save a few key areas like Glenelg, The Port, and some arterial roads and where it makes sense with a public transport node that has capacity or it can be added.

This isn't Sydney, we don't need to turn our suburbs into high density shit holes yet. We are far from 'full' or out of space.
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#39 Post by Eurostar » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:18 am

Suburbs within 10-12kms of the CBD are ideal for high density developments. Widen main roads such as Main North Road and Glen Osmond Road to allow a tramline.

The A8 is the major link between Adelaide and Melbourne, Glen Osmond Road is the gateway, it should be more welcoming to visiting tourists, give them the best impression. It should have alot more hotels along it. Sites such as Frewville Foodland should have a mix of residential and hotel above it.

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#40 Post by SRW » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:52 am

Honestly, things are so bad out there that if someone's proposing to build decent housing I'm inclined to let them.

That said, 20-storeys seems something of an ambit claim given the area does not have the amenity or transport options of the CBD.

Not only that, but the Minister does not have the god powers of some his equivalents interstate. Such a height would I think require a code amendment fraught with all the public and parliamentary review you would expect (particularly for the eastern suburbs).
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#41 Post by Eurostar » Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:25 am

Not everyone wants to live in a house in woop woop

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#42 Post by SBD » Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:13 pm

Eurostar wrote:
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Not everyone wants to live in a house in woop woop
The site of this "woop woop" is closer to Rev's square mile image than the Bowden development is.

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#43 Post by Nathan » Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:13 pm

rev wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:29 am
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This is where they need to be backing high rise residential developments. Look how much potential there is here..how many thousands of new residents could be accommodated if all the low-rise areas had high rise apartment buildings.
This mindless push of highrise in the suburbs is ridiculous and needs to stop, save a few key areas like Glenelg, The Port, and some arterial roads and where it makes sense with a public transport node that has capacity or it can be added.

This isn't Sydney, we don't need to turn our suburbs into high density shit holes yet. We are far from 'full' or out of space.

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I think that view should be pulled back just a little though, to include both sides of the parklands.

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#44 Post by dbl96 » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:50 am

rev wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:29 am

This mindless push of highrise in the suburbs is ridiculous and needs to stop, save a few key areas like Glenelg, The Port, and some arterial roads and where it makes sense with a public transport node that has capacity or it can be added.

This isn't Sydney, we don't need to turn our suburbs into high density shit holes yet. We are far from 'full' or out of space.
The odd thing is that the inner suburban apartments seem to have a much better track record of getting off the ground compared to the CBD ones. And this is reflected in the number of proposals coming forward now - many more in the inner suburbs than the CBD itself.

I’m not sure what’s causing it. Overinflated land values and land banking in the CBD perhaps? Or maybe inner suburban apartments strike a better balance for the residents in terms of ease of access/parking, considering lack of good public transport in much of the square mile itself (eg the south-west where there is space for a lot of development). Or maybe it’s an amenity thing - people preferring to live close to everything but not in the CBD itself which can be hectic and a bit of a concrete jungle in places.

Agreed though, 20 stories is excessive for this area. I think what they have been building currently (roughly 8 stories) is great. I’d be in favour of increasing the limits to maybe 12 stories, but anything much more than that will start to stick out like a sore thumb.

So much for the European mid-rise cities our politicians keep visiting for inspiration - it seems greed is pushing us to take our inspiration from Sydney instead.

It’s just totally out of scale with the rest of the development. Imagine being someone who bought one of the townhouses of to the left of the picture. You would have looked at the masterplan and thought you’d bought in a good location. Little would you have known that the developer had been scheming all along to put a 20 storey tower next door to cast shade on you.

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#45 Post by rev » Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:40 pm

Nathan wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:13 pm
rev wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:29 am
image_2024-04-20_092515879.png

This is where they need to be backing high rise residential developments. Look how much potential there is here..how many thousands of new residents could be accommodated if all the low-rise areas had high rise apartment buildings.
This mindless push of highrise in the suburbs is ridiculous and needs to stop, save a few key areas like Glenelg, The Port, and some arterial roads and where it makes sense with a public transport node that has capacity or it can be added.

This isn't Sydney, we don't need to turn our suburbs into high density shit holes yet. We are far from 'full' or out of space.

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I think that view should be pulled back just a little though, to include both sides of the parklands.
Personally I'd like to see the so called square mile filled in.

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