News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

[VinyTapestry849]

This is interesting...from that AAL schedule above:

Singapore Airlines
SQ 277 SQ 276 30NOV19JAN 0234567 337781 SINSIN1640 1835 SINSIN

Instead of three weekly flights WED/FRI/SUN between 30NOV 2024 and 19JAN 2025 we will have 6 weekly evening flights to SIN via SQ276. Checking on the Singapore Airlines Flight Schedule this is not available and so is booking those extra days. Hope it is rectified soon as I want to book one of those days currently not showing to limit my layover time in Changi.

Cheers

I've also noticed that last year it was claimed by the airport that Singapore airlines were permanently increasing flights out of Adelaide to 10. So 3 evening flights throughout the year every week. It was said to be quote "made available beyond the holiday season".

Yet they have not been made available on Singapore's website beyond march next year, hoping its also rectified soon. Or perhaps singapore have made a backflip decision to stick with daily instead of 10, with the inevitable return of Cathay and China Southern. I highlight this only because Melbourne and Sydney are available to book a multitude of services past march, hence my concern.

Regardless, with Singapore increasing its services and complete domination over the Singapore-Adelaide market, it looks less and less likely that Qantas will attempt to re-enter the market in the medium term. Eventually they will though, its an incredibly profitable route for a city of our size.

[VinyTapestry849]

Adelaide Airport International Flight Schedule for year ending 2024/2025

Cathay Pacific (resumes 02 January 2025)
CX 177 CX 174 02JAN28MAR 0234507 280359 HKGHKG1025 1220 HKGHKG

CX 177 HKG-ADL
CX 174 ADL-HKG
TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SUN
Airbus A350-900
Arr ADL 10:25
Dep ADL 12:20


China Southern Airlines (resumes 28 October 2024)
CZ 663 CZ 664 28OCT14DEC 1004060 283333 CANCAN0955 1130 CANCAN
CZ 663 CZ 664 15DEC17FEB 1204067 283333 CANCAN0955 1130 CANCAN
CZ 663 CZ 664 20FEB29MAR 1004060 283333 CANCAN0955 1130 CANCAN

CZ 663 CAN-ADL
CZ 664 ADL-CAN
28OCT – 14DEC:
MON/THU/SAT
15DEC – 17FEB:
MON/TUE/THU/SAT/SUN
20FEB – 29MAR
MON/THU/SAT
Airbus A330-300
Arr ADL 09:55
Dep ADL 11:30


Emirates (resumes 28 October 2024)
EK 440 EK 441 27OCT29MAR 1234567 36077W DXBDXB2050 2240 DXBDXB

EK 440 DXB-ADL
Ek 441 ADL-DXB
MON/TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Boeing 777
Arr ADL 20:50
Dep ADL 22:40


Fiji airways
FJ 961 FJ 960 28OCT27MAR 1004000 1707M8 NANNAN1215 1315 NANNAN

FJ 961 NAN-ADL
Fj 960 ADL-NAN
MON/THU
Boeing 737-8 max
Arr ADL 12:15
Dep ADL 13:15


Batik Air
ID 6013 ID 6012 28OCT29MAR 1234567 162738 DPSDPS0830 0950 DPSDPS

Unknown: Booking unavalible beyond 22 June 2024


Jetstar
JQ 125 28OCT29MAR 1204060 230321 0625 DPSDPS
JQ 126 JQ 127 13DEC27JAN 1234567 23232Q DPSDPS1745 1920 DPSDPS
JQ 126 JQ 127 31JAN08FEB 1000560 23232Q DPSDPS1745 1920 DPSDPS
JQ 126 JQ 9127 27OCT12DEC 1234567 23232Q DPSDPS1745 1920 DPSDPS
JQ 126 JQ 9127 28JAN09FEB 0234007 23232Q DPSDPS1745 1920 DPSDPS
JQ 126 JQ 9127 10FEB29MAR 1234567 23232Q DPSDPS1745 1920 DPSDPS
JQ 128 28OCT29MAR 1234567 23232Q DPSDPS0655

(Just the usual seasonal increase for Jetstars Denpasar route)

Malaysia Airlines
MH 138 27OCT27OCT 0000007 290333 1100 KULKUL
MH 139 MH 138 29OCT29MAR 0204567 290333 KULKUL0805 1100 KULKUL

MH 138 KUL-ADL
MH 139 ADL-KUL
TUE/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Airbus A330-300
Arr ADL 08:05
Dep ADL 11:00

Additional Malaysia flight??
MH 138 KUL-ADL
27OCT - 27OCT (???)
SUN
Airbus A330-300
Arr ADL ?
Dep ADL 11:00 (news articles are reporting its 10:20pm Dep)


Air New Zealand
NZ 191 NZ 192 27OCT29MAR 1034567 21432Q AKLAKL1050 1150 AKLAKL

NZ 191 AKL-ADL
NZ 192 ADL-AKL
MON/WED/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Airbus a321
Arr ADL 10:50
Dep ADL 11:50


Qatar Airways
QR 914 QR 915 27OCT29MAR 1234567 283359 DOHDOH1705 2200 DOHDOH
QR 988 QR 989 28OCT29MAR 1234567 41277W DOHMEL0635 1350 MELDOH

QR 914 DOH-ADL
QR 915 ADL-DOH
MON/TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Airbus A350-900
Arr ADL 17:05
Dep ADL 22:00

QR 988 DOH-MEL
QR 989 MEL-DOH
MON/TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Boeing 777
Arr ADL 06:35
Dep ADL 13:50


Singapore Airlines
SQ 277 SQ 276 27OCT29NOV 0030507 337781 SINSIN1640 1835 SINSIN
SQ 277 SQ 276 30NOV19JAN 0234567 337781 SINSIN1640 1835 SINSIN
SQ 277 SQ 276 22JAN28MAR 0030507 337781 SINSIN1640 1835 SINSIN
SQ 279 SQ 278 28OCT29MAR 1234567 337781 SINSIN0905 1030 SINSIN

SQ 279 SIN-ADL
SQ 278 ADL-SIN
MON/TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Boeing 787-10
Arr ADL 09:35
Dep ADL 10:30

Additional flight SQ 277/276:
27OCT-28MAR
SQ 277 SIN-ADL
SQ 276 ADL-SIN
WED/FRI/SUN
Boeing 787-10
Arr ADL 16:40
Dep ADL 18:35

Unconfirmed increase to SQ 277/276 flights 30NOV-19JAN (DOUBLE DAILY 6x weekly seasonal):
SQ 277 SIN-ADL
SQ 276 ADL-SIN
TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Boeing 787-10
Arr ADL 16:40
Dep ADL 18:35


Virgin Australia (Denpasar)
VA 110 VA 109 16DEC26JAN 1234567 17673H DPSDPS0735 1905 DPSDPS
VA 114 VA 117 10DEC27JAN 1204060 17673H DPSDPS0620 0900 DPSDPS
VA 116 VA 113 13DEC26JAN 1000507 17673H DPSDPS1550 1750 DPSDPS

16DEC-26JAN
VA 110 DPS-ADL
VA 109 ADL-DPS
MON/TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SAT/SUN
Boeing 737
Arr ADL 07:35
Dep ADL 19:05

10DEC-27JAN
VA 114 DPS-ADL
VA 117 ADL-DPS
MON/TUE/THU/SAT
Boeing 737
Arr ADL 06:20
Dep ADL 09:00

13DEC-26JAN
VA 116 DPS-ADL
VA 113 ADL-DPS
MON/FRI/SUN
Boeing 737
Arr ADL 15:50
Dep ADL 17:50


VietJet Air
VJ 089 VJ 080 29OCT29MAR 0200060 230321 SGNPER1200 1300 PERSGN

VJ 089 SGNPER-ADL
VJ 080 ADL-SGNPER
TUE/SAT
Airbus A321
Arr ADL(or Perth) 12:00
Dep ADL(or Perth) 13:00

[hotair]

A link popped up while google Cathay Pacific direct flight Adelaide.
https://flights.cathaypacific.com/desti ... o-adelaide
Flight route information
Cathay Pacific offers daily direct flights to Adelaide International Airport (ADL) from Hong Kong International Airport (HKG). Flights from HKG to ADL take 8 hours 45 minutes and bring you to Terminal 1.

[Ho Really]

[...]

Yet they have not been made available on Singapore's website beyond march next year, hoping its also rectified soon. Or perhaps singapore have made a backflip decision to stick with daily instead of 10, with the inevitable return of Cathay and China Southern. I highlight this only because Melbourne and Sydney are available to book a multitude of services past march, hence my concern.

[...]

Officially the last SQ276 flight (to SIN) is Friday 28 March 2025. Beyond that nothing is confirmed. Just like the 6 weekly flights between 30 NOV and 19 JAN mentioned by AAL. I contacted SIA. They said keep checking our schedules for any updates as they can change for a variety of factors. So it is not confirmed or denied. However I lean towards those extra flights being confirmed. It will be a test run that will hopefully bring twice daily next year.

Cheers

[1NEEDS2POST]

Great news, the only direction we're missing now is America. Adelaide to Los Angeles would be useful to lots of travellers.

[abc]

Great news, the only direction we're missing now is America. Adelaide to Los Angeles would be useful to lots of travellers.

it would?

[SBD]

Great news, the only direction we're missing now is America. Adelaide to Los Angeles would be useful to lots of travellers.

it would?

Perhaps "Adelaide to a North American hub"?

But Adelaide has a niche film industry and video game industry, both of which could be relevant to Los Angeles and nearby California. There is probably more travel done to/from Adelaide for the Defence sector, but I'm not sure if there's any other practical US hub that would fit better.

[VinyTapestry849]

Great news, the only direction we're missing now is America. Adelaide to Los Angeles would be useful to lots of travellers.

It certainly won't be to Los Angeles when we get our first American flight. It'll be to San Fransico.

United Airlines has always started off new service routes with a San Fransico flight, because its the business capital of California. And it being a business city, a service between Adelaide and San Fransico would work all year round. Los Angeles is more of a holiday city, and would only be viable during the holiday period (when first starting the service)

United Airlines is currently circling Adelaide, and once Adelaide Airport gets China southern and Cathay back, will be given the green light to prepare to start services within the next two-three years.

Adelaide Airport has specifically said they want Cathay back and China Southern back before pursuing new routes. Those carriers are likely to return this summer.

After that, the airports full attention and focus will be getting those America routes as soon as possible.

[abc]

direct flights to Asia are much more practical than direct flights from Adelaide to the USA... there would be miniscule traffic on such flights to justify such a route

a lot of Asians live in Adelaide and travel back and forth for family reasons, this isn't the case with USA

[VinyTapestry849]

direct flights to Asia are much more practical than direct flights from Adelaide to the USA... there would be miniscule traffic on such flights to justify such a route

a lot of Asians live in Adelaide and travel back and forth for family reasons, this isn't the case with USA

There were 39,000+ travellers per annum that Adelaide airport identified were going to and from Los Angeles from Adelaide. Thats not even including the people who would be travelling to San Fransico/New York, etc. That is PLENTY to justify a direct service a couple of times a week.

When the service eventually comes online it'll be very popular

Data can be found on a graph here: https://tinyurl.com/kkx2ph9k

Please look at the facts before being your usual pessimistic self

[SRW]

Great news, the only direction we're missing now is America. Adelaide to Los Angeles would be useful to lots of travellers.

it would?

Perhaps "Adelaide to a North American hub"?

But Adelaide has a niche film industry and video game industry, both of which could be relevant to Los Angeles and nearby California. There is probably more travel done to/from Adelaide for the Defence sector, but I'm not sure if there's any other practical US hub that would fit better.

I'd prefer LA or San Fran, but San Diego is the naval hub and currently has no air connection with Australia. Could be a mutual fit.

A fair amount of defence travel could also be routed to Honolulu once (if??) the submarines are underway as a major missile testing range is in Hawaii and many subs are home-ported in Pearl Harbour.

[rev]

There were 39,000+ travellers per annum that Adelaide airport identified were going to and from Los Angeles from Adelaide. Thats not even including the people who would be travelling to San Fransico/New York, etc. That is PLENTY to justify a direct service a couple of times a week.

When the service eventually comes online it'll be very popular

Data can be found on a graph here: https://tinyurl.com/kkx2ph9k

52f9833795bf06cbe27382371e37b060061702d8.png


Please look at the facts before being your usual pessimistic self

If that 39,000 figure is correct, that'd be about 750 a week. Depending on the type of aircraft, one stop perhaps Fiji or Honolulu (some flights out of Melbourne stop in Fiji on the way to LA), could probably get one flight a week.
I doubt they'd go for much more to start off, if and when they manage to introduce flights to LA.
That should, hopefully, increase demand, and then they can talk about a couple flights a week.

[VinyTapestry849]

There were 39,000+ travellers per annum that Adelaide airport identified were going to and from Los Angeles from Adelaide. Thats not even including the people who would be travelling to San Fransico/New York, etc. That is PLENTY to justify a direct service a couple of times a week.

When the service eventually comes online it'll be very popular

Data can be found on a graph here: https://tinyurl.com/kkx2ph9k

52f9833795bf06cbe27382371e37b060061702d8.png


Please look at the facts before being your usual pessimistic self

If that 39,000 figure is correct, that'd be about 750 a week. Depending on the type of aircraft, one stop perhaps Fiji or Honolulu (some flights out of Melbourne stop in Fiji on the way to LA), could probably get one flight a week.
I doubt they'd go for much more to start off, if and when they manage to introduce flights to LA.
That should, hopefully, increase demand, and then they can talk about a couple flights a week.

I wrote down a basic calculation for United Airlines a couple of months ago but i'll paste it here again

If United were to do thrice weekly DIRECT that's 3 x 52 = 156 flights per annum, therefore 39,000 passengers ÷ 156 flights ≈ 250 passengers per flight (pretty much filling the 280-seat capacity of the 787-8), and the 787-8 can do NON-STOP, without needing to stop in melbourne or Fiji.

I've said before and I'll say it again, united are buying a lot of 787's and plan to use them for australia
https://www.hotelmanagement.com.au/2023 ... s-in-2024/

Its profitable and achieveable. Hope to see the direct service by united happen soon.

[abc]

direct flights to Asia are much more practical than direct flights from Adelaide to the USA... there would be miniscule traffic on such flights to justify such a route

a lot of Asians live in Adelaide and travel back and forth for family reasons, this isn't the case with USA

There were 39,000+ travellers per annum that Adelaide airport identified were going to and from Los Angeles from Adelaide. Thats not even including the people who would be travelling to San Fransico/New York, etc. That is PLENTY to justify a direct service a couple of times a week.

When the service eventually comes online it'll be very popular

Data can be found on a graph here: https://tinyurl.com/kkx2ph9k

52f9833795bf06cbe27382371e37b060061702d8.png


Please look at the facts before being your usual pessimistic self

that's a miniscule amount of traffic and pointless given Sydney is en route

nothing to do with pessimism, its realism

[VinyTapestry849]

direct flights to Asia are much more practical than direct flights from Adelaide to the USA... there would be miniscule traffic on such flights to justify such a route

a lot of Asians live in Adelaide and travel back and forth for family reasons, this isn't the case with USA

There were 39,000+ travellers per annum that Adelaide airport identified were going to and from Los Angeles from Adelaide. Thats not even including the people who would be travelling to San Fransico/New York, etc. That is PLENTY to justify a direct service a couple of times a week.

When the service eventually comes online it'll be very popular

Data can be found on a graph here: https://tinyurl.com/kkx2ph9k

52f9833795bf06cbe27382371e37b060061702d8.png


Please look at the facts before being your usual pessimistic self

that's a miniscule amount of traffic and pointless given Sydney is en route

nothing to do with pessimism, its realism

So why have United airlines sent delegations and are in communication with Adelaide airport?

christ you make this forum miserable abc. You have no optimism. A classic adelaide nimby