The SA Politics Thread

[abc]

mandatory jibby jabs worsened the problem

I see they've recently lifted that as they've likely realised its lowered the staffing numbers

Rubbish. Pure cooker propaganda.

SA Health employs over 40 000 people. Only 391 refused to get vaccinated. Not all of them clinical. Not a single doctor.

Ramping is due to other issues.

its not the ones who refused, its the ones who actually took it and made them sick

ironic you use the term 'cooker propaganda' when the term 'cooker' is a propaganda term created by the Vic government to marginalise dissenters to its draconian policy

[SouthAussie94]

Tarzia / Gardner looks likely to be the new leadership duo. Safe conservative pick to satisfy the internal right wing and member base.

In reality, it should be Hurn/Cowdrey. The Liberals have a massive women problem and it would benefit their image to address this to broaden their appeal and attract voters back to the party.

If the ambulance ramping crisis continues to worsen, Mali is in serious trouble. Liberals will be wise to hammer this point home.

Oh and i'm sure they will. Ironic though that Spiers in opposition brought forward a bill to ban the use of election corflutes during election campaigns.

I bet they are ruing that move, could just imagine how damaging they could've been in the next campaign with regards to hospital ramping.

Purely speculative, but I feel that moves like that are why Spiers was unpopular within parts of the party.

In some areas he seemed to push through things that he seemed to strongly believe in, even if they weren't areas the Libs would traditionally focus on. Single use plastic bans, corflute bans, Glenthorn National Park, open reservoirs etc.

I could see these things being unpopular with your Antic's, etc.

[Waewick]

You could tell even when in Govt, Spiers was never going to be a capable leader.

The Libs won't have the Ambo union doing the heavy lifting on the ramping issue, so they just won't get the traction.

The unpopularity of the Federal Liberal party won't help.

So I can not see the Libs laying a finger on Labor at the next election. The best we can really hope for is some capable independents who don't take the cash and join Labors ministry.

[Jaymz]

I found it rather hilarious that within weeks after the last election, the narrative suddenly changed from "we'll fix ramping" to "we'll get ramping back to pre 2019 levels by the end of our first term"

Another interesting issue is going to be the South Road tunnels. If at least 1 of those boring machines hasn't started work by the next election, then that will be another point the Libs will be harping on. And with good reason. The Marshall Govt. had it ready to go and costed, at around $5 billion less than the current new plan.

[Waewick]

I found it rather hilarious that within weeks after the last election, the narrative suddenly changed from "we'll fix ramping" to "we'll get ramping back to pre 2019 levels by the end of our first term"

Another interesting issue is going to be the South Road tunnels. If at least 1 of those boring machines hasn't started work by the next election, then that will be another point the Libs will be harping on. And with good reason. The Marshall Govt. had it ready to go and costed, at around $5 billion less than the current new plan.

If you head on to other SA based forums you'll get absolutely attacked if you mention the promise was to fix ramping.

But we get what we deserve, just sucks if you need to go to hospital.

The Libs need some not horrible candidates, might help them win a few seats, but that won't happen when you have Antic anyhere near a political party.

[Will]

mandatory jibby jabs worsened the problem

I see they've recently lifted that as they've likely realised its lowered the staffing numbers

Rubbish. Pure cooker propaganda.

SA Health employs over 40 000 people. Only 391 refused to get vaccinated. Not all of them clinical. Not a single doctor.

Ramping is due to other issues.

its not the ones who refused, its the ones who actually took it and made them sick

ironic you use the term 'cooker propaganda' when the term 'cooker' is a propaganda term created by the Vic government to marginalise dissenters to its draconian policy

Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim?

[abc]

Rubbish. Pure cooker propaganda.

SA Health employs over 40 000 people. Only 391 refused to get vaccinated. Not all of them clinical. Not a single doctor.

Ramping is due to other issues.

its not the ones who refused, its the ones who actually took it and made them sick

ironic you use the term 'cooker propaganda' when the term 'cooker' is a propaganda term created by the Vic government to marginalise dissenters to its draconian policy

Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim?

which claim?
there's no such thing as 'cooker propaganda'

government does propaganda not the powerless

pro authoritarians like you prefer to punch down

[rev]

Rated: South Australian Liberal leadership contenders to replace David Speirs
The mantle of SA Liberal leader to replace David Speirs is shaping as a three-horse race. Paul Starick rates the contenders.

Paul Starick
Editor At Large
@paulstarick
less than 2 min read
August 9, 2024 - 2:11PM

Three contenders are vying for the state Liberal leadership to succeed David Speirs, who declared he had “just had a gutful” when quitting the top job on Thursday.

The three former ministers in the Marshall Liberal government – John Gardner, Vincent Tarzia and Josh Teague – all have backgrounds in the party’s Moderate faction, rather than the Right, or Conservatives.

Here’s a look at the contenders, including their strengths and weaknesses.


Liberal state deputy leader John Gardner. Picture: NCA NewsWire/Kelly Barnes

JOHN GARDNER

Mr Gardner has been deputy Opposition Leader to Mr Speirs since April, 2022. He was education minister in the Marshall government, overseeing a $1.5bn school upgrade program, introduction of Year 7 into high school and Year 1 phonic checks.

A leading Moderate and skilled parliamentarian who understands internal Liberal politics but is accused by rivals as lacking the telegenic appeal to take on Premier Peter Malinauskas.

Has held the eastern suburbs electorate of Morialta since 2010.


Leadership contender Vincent Tarzia (right) at a 2021 press conference, when he was police minister. Picture: NCA NewsWire/Kelly Barnes

VINCENT TARZIA

Won acclaim as the Nick Xenophon slayer for holding the crucial northeastern Adelaide seat of Hartley in 2018, helping install the Marshall government.

Appointed that May as Speaker – the youngest in SA history. Then became police minister in the Marshall government.

Ambitious and energetic, is determined to shoot for the top job and ruling out running as deputy. Opponents accuse him of undermining Mr Speirs and claim he can be reckless and shortsighted.


Heysen MP Josh Teague. Picture: NCA NewsWire/David Mariuz

JOSH TEAGUE

Former barrister who took over from Mr Tarzia as Speaker in the Marshall government, before being deposed in late 2021 by Liberal turncoat Dan Cregan in a late-night coup.

Then became planning and local government minister, acting as attorney-general after Vickie Chapman stepped aside.

Son of former Liberal senator Baden Teague. Has had some success pushing the Hahndorf bypass/River Rd issue beyond his Adelaide Hills electorate of Heysen.

But even factional backers question his ability to move beyond legal speak to win over voters as leader.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscrib ... nt-1-SCORE

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moderate Liberal = globalist sellout

[[Shuz]]

The choice of three middle aged white men. That's really good PR optics for electability.

[Will]

The choice of three middle aged white men. That's really good PR optics for electability.

Someone’s race or gender shouldn’t determine whether they are capable of leading a political party.

Remember this is for the leader of the Liberal party, not Socialist Alliance….

[Waewick]

The choice of three middle aged white men. That's really good PR optics for electability.

Someone’s race or gender shouldn’t determine whether they are capable of leading a political party.

Remember this is for the leader of the Liberal party, not Socialist Alliance….

I don't think the are saying they have to be female, just the lack of female options reflects what we all see with the Liberal Party

[Will]

The choice of three middle aged white men. That's really good PR optics for electability.

Someone’s race or gender shouldn’t determine whether they are capable of leading a political party.

Remember this is for the leader of the Liberal party, not Socialist Alliance….

I don't think the are saying they have to be female, just the lack of female options reflects what we all see with the Liberal Party

Fair enough. Ashton Hurn is the obvious choice for leader, but she’s on maternity leave I think.

To be honest, all these 3 blokes have no charisma and I can only see them as bench warmers.

[A-Town]

Someone’s race or gender shouldn’t determine whether they are capable of leading a political party.

Remember this is for the leader of the Liberal party, not Socialist Alliance….

I don't think the are saying they have to be female, just the lack of female options reflects what we all see with the Liberal Party

Fair enough. Ashton Hurn is the obvious choice for leader, but she’s on maternity leave I think.

To be honest, all these 3 blokes have no charisma and I can only see them as bench warmers.

I always saw Speirs as a bench warmer and I'm not the least bit surprised that he's decided to step down as leader. He was an okay environment minister, but wasn't cut out to be the party's leader.

[Waewick]

Someone’s race or gender shouldn’t determine whether they are capable of leading a political party.

Remember this is for the leader of the Liberal party, not Socialist Alliance….

I don't think the are saying they have to be female, just the lack of female options reflects what we all see with the Liberal Party

Fair enough. Ashton Hurn is the obvious choice for leader, but she’s on maternity leave I think.

To be honest, all these 3 blokes have no charisma and I can only see them as bench warmers.

Have to admit, don't know much about her.

Can't be worse than Spiers.


Problem is Labor can win with just a leader and the name, the Libs need to bat deeper and as far as I can see they bat as deep as the Redbacks.