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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1336 Post by abc » Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:52 pm

Police say former SA Liberal leader David Speirs faces drug charges. Here's how it all unfolded
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-07/ ... /104438058

chalk another one up for the realists here :applause:
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#1337 Post by SBD » Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:24 am

abc wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:52 pm
Police say former SA Liberal leader David Speirs faces drug charges. Here's how it all unfolded
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-07/ ... /104438058

chalk another one up for the realists here :applause:
He's charged with two counts of supplying a controlled substance. I assume that is because the video is insufficient evidence that he used it. Presumably therefore, the key witness for supplying it is the person who received it. We have not received hints on who that was. Someone was allegedly sufficiently trusted to be in his home and sharing drugs, and has not been thrown under the bus (yet), despite a major breach of that trust.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1338 Post by abc » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:47 pm

SBD wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:24 am
abc wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:52 pm
Police say former SA Liberal leader David Speirs faces drug charges. Here's how it all unfolded
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-07/ ... /104438058

chalk another one up for the realists here :applause:
He's charged with two counts of supplying a controlled substance. I assume that is because the video is insufficient evidence that he used it. Presumably therefore, the key witness for supplying it is the person who received it. We have not received hints on who that was. Someone was allegedly sufficiently trusted to be in his home and sharing drugs, and has not been thrown under the bus (yet), despite a major breach of that trust.
he's charged only with supplying because its a much higher charge, the police wouldn't waste their time with a user only
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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1339 Post by rev » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:14 pm

SBD wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:24 am
abc wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:52 pm
Police say former SA Liberal leader David Speirs faces drug charges. Here's how it all unfolded
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-07/ ... /104438058

chalk another one up for the realists here :applause:
He's charged with two counts of supplying a controlled substance. I assume that is because the video is insufficient evidence that he used it. Presumably therefore, the key witness for supplying it is the person who received it. We have not received hints on who that was. Someone was allegedly sufficiently trusted to be in his home and sharing drugs, and has not been thrown under the bus (yet), despite a major breach of that trust.
What it means is he supplied a controlled substance, in this instance cocaine, to another person.
It doesn't mean he is some big time drug baron.

Here's something straight from the controlled substances act about cocaine..

Large Commercial pure 0.75 kg mixed 1 kg
Commercial pure 0.1 kg mixed 0.2 kg
Trafficable 2 g

Anyone can google what a gram of cocaine looks like, if they live a sheltered life under a rock and have never seen, and make their own determination how much might have been cut on that plate in that video of Spiers having a bump.

The bigger issue is that it's almost certainly a hit job (the leaking of the video) from within his own (former) party. The fact we don't have a functional opposition party, that the Liberal party is that factionally divided they do each other in like this, is not good for South Australia.
The opposition isn't just who you might vote for every election, but is vital to an effective system of governance. We need an effective opposition, whether it's Labor or the Liberals, who can hold the government of the time accountable.
Spiers offending/charges is just the side show.
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#1340 Post by [Shuz] » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:23 pm

Gut feeling tells me 100% Tarzia is behind this.
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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1341 Post by Waewick » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:43 pm

[Shuz] wrote:Gut feeling tells me 100% Tarzia is behind this.
Are they in different factions ?

Wouldn't put it past the Libs , factions over party.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1342 Post by abc » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:27 am

[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:23 pm
Gut feeling tells me 100% Tarzia is behind this.
what do you base that on? and why is it more important who leaked this than the fact Spiers is of questionable character?
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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1343 Post by rubberman » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:08 am

abc wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:27 am
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:23 pm
Gut feeling tells me 100% Tarzia is behind this.
what do you base that on? and why is it more important who leaked this than the fact Spiers is of questionable character?
Because this forum is about politics. Who leaked it...is connected to politics.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1344 Post by SBD » Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:04 pm

rubberman wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:08 am
abc wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:27 am
[Shuz] wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:23 pm
Gut feeling tells me 100% Tarzia is behind this.
what do you base that on? and why is it more important who leaked this than the fact Spiers is of questionable character?
Because this forum is about politics. Who leaked it...is connected to politics.
I see whoever "leaked" it as being just as questionable character as Spiers himself (who has not admitted to snorting the stuff as far as I know).

The leaker may or may not be a member of the parliament or the Liberal Party. Friendships (and in this case, broken friendships) don't always follow party lines.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1345 Post by VinyTapestry849 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:27 am

Adelaide will formally bid to host COP31 climate conference in 2026
South Australia will bid to host one of the largest global events in 2026, with an estimated economic benefit of $500m.

October 14, 2024 - 12:01AM
The climate talks at COP28 wrapped up last week, with some people describing the outcomes as historic.
South Australia will bid to host the COP31 climate change conference in 2026 – a global event that would attract more than 30,000 visitors and generate an economic benefit upwards of $500m.

State government analysis has confirmed Adelaide has the capacity and capability to hold the annual conference, and a bid will be formally submitted to the federal government.
The COP summit – Conference of Parties – is a meeting of 197 nations and is the ultimate climate change decision-making body of the United Nations.

It is attended by heads of state as well as A-listers from a range of fields, with past conferences having been attended by King Charles, Prince William and Princess Catherine, Greta Thunberg and Leonardo DiCaprio.

If South Australia’s bid was successful, the event would be staged at the Convention Centre in November 2026, with the wider centre precinct forming the necessary secure zone and public event area.

A feasibility analysis commissioned by the government confirmed Adelaide would be able to successfully host the talks. It found the city has enough accommodation on offer for all visiting delegates, and could offer a safe and secure experience at the event for all attendees.

It also found that hosting the event would deliver a potential benefit of $511.6m to the state, which includes economic activity generated by tourism, trade and investment.
The figure also includes the benefit the event would bring to the brands of Adelaide and South Australia.

Preparation work completed to date has included detailed assessment of the security of host venues, accommodation and transport services.

Australia – which is bidding to co-host the event in partnership with the Pacific – has not officially been announced as the host of COP31 but is thought to be in the box-seat over Turkey.
A decision could be made as soon as November.

Then it will be up to the federal government to decide which city will host the event, with Brisbane and Sydney having also expressed interest.
Premier Peter Malinauskas said the conference would attract tens of thousands of people and hundreds of millions of dollars to SA, and would provide an opportunity to market the state to investors across the world.

“South Australia is already a world leader in renewable energy and decarbonisation and hosting COP31 would firmly put our state on the global map,” he said.
“We are a state which recognises the challenge of climate change, but we haven’t waited for others to lead, we have chosen to take world-leading action.
“This makes us the natural and logical choice to host COP31 in 2026.”

Deputy Premier Susan Close said the time for action on climate change was now.
“It is incumbent upon us all to support businesses and the community to adapt and reduce emissions,” she said.

“South Australia was the first Australian state to declare a climate emergency which commits us to restoring a safe climate by transforming our economy into a strong net zero emissions one.
“COP31 will allow South Australia to demonstrate to the world how we are addressing climate change through our continued leadership in renewable energy technology, which is now driving the state towards net zero emissions.”

Last year, the SA Business Chamber suggested the state government should conduct a feasibility study into the prospect of hosting COP.
“Our leadership in renewables and track record in running flagship global events, sees us well placed to make a compelling bid,” chief executive Andrew Kay said.

“Hosting the COP would … boost the economy and further cement our credentials as a world leader in renewable energy, enhancing Adelaide and South Australia’s global image.”

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1346 Post by SouthAussie94 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:48 am

VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:27 am
Adelaide will formally bid to host COP31 climate conference in 2026
South Australia will bid to host one of the largest global events in 2026, with an estimated economic benefit of $500m.

October 14, 2024 - 12:01AM
The climate talks at COP28 wrapped up last week, with some people describing the outcomes as historic.
South Australia will bid to host the COP31 climate change conference in 2026 – a global event that would attract more than 30,000 visitors and generate an economic benefit upwards of $500m.

State government analysis has confirmed Adelaide has the capacity and capability to hold the annual conference, and a bid will be formally submitted to the federal government.
The COP summit – Conference of Parties – is a meeting of 197 nations and is the ultimate climate change decision-making body of the United Nations.

It is attended by heads of state as well as A-listers from a range of fields, with past conferences having been attended by King Charles, Prince William and Princess Catherine, Greta Thunberg and Leonardo DiCaprio.

If South Australia’s bid was successful, the event would be staged at the Convention Centre in November 2026, with the wider centre precinct forming the necessary secure zone and public event area.

A feasibility analysis commissioned by the government confirmed Adelaide would be able to successfully host the talks. It found the city has enough accommodation on offer for all visiting delegates, and could offer a safe and secure experience at the event for all attendees.

It also found that hosting the event would deliver a potential benefit of $511.6m to the state, which includes economic activity generated by tourism, trade and investment.
The figure also includes the benefit the event would bring to the brands of Adelaide and South Australia.

Preparation work completed to date has included detailed assessment of the security of host venues, accommodation and transport services.

Australia – which is bidding to co-host the event in partnership with the Pacific – has not officially been announced as the host of COP31 but is thought to be in the box-seat over Turkey.
A decision could be made as soon as November.

Then it will be up to the federal government to decide which city will host the event, with Brisbane and Sydney having also expressed interest.
Premier Peter Malinauskas said the conference would attract tens of thousands of people and hundreds of millions of dollars to SA, and would provide an opportunity to market the state to investors across the world.

“South Australia is already a world leader in renewable energy and decarbonisation and hosting COP31 would firmly put our state on the global map,” he said.
“We are a state which recognises the challenge of climate change, but we haven’t waited for others to lead, we have chosen to take world-leading action.
“This makes us the natural and logical choice to host COP31 in 2026.”

Deputy Premier Susan Close said the time for action on climate change was now.
“It is incumbent upon us all to support businesses and the community to adapt and reduce emissions,” she said.

“South Australia was the first Australian state to declare a climate emergency which commits us to restoring a safe climate by transforming our economy into a strong net zero emissions one.
“COP31 will allow South Australia to demonstrate to the world how we are addressing climate change through our continued leadership in renewable energy technology, which is now driving the state towards net zero emissions.”

Last year, the SA Business Chamber suggested the state government should conduct a feasibility study into the prospect of hosting COP.
“Our leadership in renewables and track record in running flagship global events, sees us well placed to make a compelling bid,” chief executive Andrew Kay said.

“Hosting the COP would … boost the economy and further cement our credentials as a world leader in renewable energy, enhancing Adelaide and South Australia’s global image.”
A November 2026 date would put the conference within a few weeks of the Adelaide 500. Not sure on how the optics of that would look...

*I say this as a regular attendee of the 500. I'm fully aware of the biofuel used, electric safety car, etc, etc.
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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1347 Post by SBD » Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:35 am

SouthAussie94 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:48 am
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:27 am
Adelaide will formally bid to host COP31 climate conference in 2026
South Australia will bid to host one of the largest global events in 2026, with an estimated economic benefit of $500m.

October 14, 2024 - 12:01AM
The climate talks at COP28 wrapped up last week, with some people describing the outcomes as historic.
South Australia will bid to host the COP31 climate change conference in 2026 – a global event that would attract more than 30,000 visitors and generate an economic benefit upwards of $500m.

State government analysis has confirmed Adelaide has the capacity and capability to hold the annual conference, and a bid will be formally submitted to the federal government.
The COP summit – Conference of Parties – is a meeting of 197 nations and is the ultimate climate change decision-making body of the United Nations.

It is attended by heads of state as well as A-listers from a range of fields, with past conferences having been attended by King Charles, Prince William and Princess Catherine, Greta Thunberg and Leonardo DiCaprio.

If South Australia’s bid was successful, the event would be staged at the Convention Centre in November 2026, with the wider centre precinct forming the necessary secure zone and public event area.

A feasibility analysis commissioned by the government confirmed Adelaide would be able to successfully host the talks. It found the city has enough accommodation on offer for all visiting delegates, and could offer a safe and secure experience at the event for all attendees.

It also found that hosting the event would deliver a potential benefit of $511.6m to the state, which includes economic activity generated by tourism, trade and investment.
The figure also includes the benefit the event would bring to the brands of Adelaide and South Australia.

Preparation work completed to date has included detailed assessment of the security of host venues, accommodation and transport services.

Australia – which is bidding to co-host the event in partnership with the Pacific – has not officially been announced as the host of COP31 but is thought to be in the box-seat over Turkey.
A decision could be made as soon as November.

Then it will be up to the federal government to decide which city will host the event, with Brisbane and Sydney having also expressed interest.
Premier Peter Malinauskas said the conference would attract tens of thousands of people and hundreds of millions of dollars to SA, and would provide an opportunity to market the state to investors across the world.

“South Australia is already a world leader in renewable energy and decarbonisation and hosting COP31 would firmly put our state on the global map,” he said.
“We are a state which recognises the challenge of climate change, but we haven’t waited for others to lead, we have chosen to take world-leading action.
“This makes us the natural and logical choice to host COP31 in 2026.”

Deputy Premier Susan Close said the time for action on climate change was now.
“It is incumbent upon us all to support businesses and the community to adapt and reduce emissions,” she said.

“South Australia was the first Australian state to declare a climate emergency which commits us to restoring a safe climate by transforming our economy into a strong net zero emissions one.
“COP31 will allow South Australia to demonstrate to the world how we are addressing climate change through our continued leadership in renewable energy technology, which is now driving the state towards net zero emissions.”

Last year, the SA Business Chamber suggested the state government should conduct a feasibility study into the prospect of hosting COP.
“Our leadership in renewables and track record in running flagship global events, sees us well placed to make a compelling bid,” chief executive Andrew Kay said.

“Hosting the COP would … boost the economy and further cement our credentials as a world leader in renewable energy, enhancing Adelaide and South Australia’s global image.”
A November 2026 date would put the conference within a few weeks of the Adelaide 500. Not sure on how the optics of that would look...

*I say this as a regular attendee of the 500. I'm fully aware of the biofuel used, electric safety car, etc, etc.
That's an interesting thought. I've heard it claimed (I have not attempted to confirm) that the total vehicle emissions from the race track for the week is lower than the emissions from those roads in a week of normal use.

The whole event is about big picture issues and slow changes. Most participants will fly on jets to get to it, and supposedly the hooplah around someone choosing not to do that a few years ago was symbolic as her supporters made more trips than would otherwise have been required.

My thought was that there will be a state election in March 2026, so the government that wins the bid may not be the same one who hosts the event.

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#1348 Post by [Shuz] » Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:43 am

SBD, you have to be seriously delusional if you think the Liberals have even a chance at winning the 2026 election.
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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#1349 Post by abc » Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:48 am

Malinauskas dreams of being a globalist and getting invited to all the parties that entails
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#1350 Post by mattblack » Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:00 pm

abc wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:48 am
Malinauskas dreams of being a globalist and getting invited to all the parties that entails
Sigh.....

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