News & Developments: Bowden TOD

[Nathan]

Answer my earlier queries re: a full fledged supermarket, looks like there will be one at the ground level of one of these new buildings.

There's been absolutely nothing said from either MAB or RenewalSA about a supermarket within this development.

[Patrick_27]

Answer my earlier queries re: a full fledged supermarket, looks like there will be one at the ground level of one of these new buildings.

There's been absolutely nothing said from either MAB or RenewalSA about a supermarket within this development.

If I'm not mistaken, that looks to be a supermarket of some kind on the ground floor?

[Nathan]

It's a render of what could be built there. A vision vs an actual planned development.

[gnrc_louis]

Could someone please post this: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscrib ... nt-2-SCORE

[Llessur2002]

Kennett claims Australian-first ‘material bank’ at Uniting on Second, Bowden site in green building push

Building materials used in the construction of a new affordable housing project in Adelaide’s inner north are being catalogued as part of a landmark new scheme to help the environment.

Materials, such as steel beams and pre-cast concrete, will be catalogued so they can be identified and reused at the end of the building’s life as part of a ‘material bank’ scheme designed to help make the industry greener.

In a major green building push, commercial builder Kennett claims to have become Australia’s first construction company to open a material bank of building resources – at its $37m Uniting on Second project, which is targeting a 5-Star Green Star rating for sustainable building.

Following a submission by Kennett, the Green Building Council developed a Green Star Leadership Challenge to incentivise the 1200 registered building projects across the country currently seeking a Green Star rating to set up or work with other material banks.

The Uniting on Second project at Bowden – a joint venture between Kennett, not-for-profit aged care and accommodation provider UnitingSA and South Australia’s state government development agency Renewal SA – is the first project to participate in the scheme.

It will feature 70 affordable apartments across an all-electric eight storey build.


Artist's impression of Uniting on Second affordable housing development. Picture: Supplied by Kennett

Kennett general manager Anthony Carbone, who’s leading the material bank initiative, said it was designed to lower carbon emissions, and in the long run, would free up access to resources and reduce building costs.

“Efficient structural design, modular design and green concrete are some of the common ways to reduce greenhouse emissions in construction, however, Kennett’s material bank goes to the root cause of emissions to make the largest impact,” Mr Carbone said.

“In construction, raw materials are mined from the earth and manufactured into building materials, which is when the most emissions are created. Then they’re demolished and put into landfill, or re-manufactured into low grade materials when a building reaches the end of its lifespan. Kennett’s material bank will see building materials continue in an upcycled state and be re-certified and reused in new buildings.

“With the cost of construction increasing by as much as 50 per cent in recent times, the material bank also provides long term cost savings by reducing the quantity of materials being purchased.”

The buildings and construction sector is by far the largest emitter of greenhouse gases, according to the United Nations Environment Programme, accounting for 37 per cent of global emissions.

Most of the emissions occur in the mining and processing of materials into construction products such as cement, steel and aluminium.

By cataloguing building materials so they can be identified and re-certified, the material bank enables structural materials such as steel beams, pre-cast concrete panels, cladding and solar panels – typically recycled into low grade materials – to be directly reused in future buildings.

Kennett has partnered with the University of Adelaide and sustainability consultants dsquared Consulting for research and technical support in developing its material bank initiative.

Green Building Council senior manager of strategy and development Taryn Cornell said material banks had the potential to be a “game-changer” for the construction industry’s efforts to improve its environmental performance.

“This approach aligns with the principles of a circular economy and we look forward to seeing it contribute to Australia’s efforts in this area.”

Mr Carbone said government backing for material banks in Australia would support the construction industry’s efforts to reduce emissions.

“Long term, we would like to see a federally funded material bank administered at a national level, that’s accessible to all,” he said.

“As a signatory to the Paris Agreement, rolling out a national material bank would be a significant step towards achieving Australia’s emissions reduction target.”

From: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business ... 00a88d2efd

[rev]

Interesting. While they mention the cost of building, what's such a scheme going to do to the cost of demolition? Time frames will blow out, that alone will increase costs.
Cant imagine they'd be demolishing it with the same methodology they demolish buildings now.

[SouthAussie94]

And the precast panels, steel beams, etc would be custom made for this particular building. Fast forward 60 years when the site is redeveloped, how can they reuse these custom made materials in another building? Are they just going to build a carbon copy of it elsewhere? If the materials are in good enough condition to reuse, why is the original building being demolished?

And this assumes that the building owner at the time actually has the drive to see the process through. As Rev suggested, conventional demolition would be cheaper and quicker.

I'll take 'Things That Won't Happen' for $200 thanks Alex....

[EBG]

Within the next 20-30 years Geo-polymers will have replaced concrete as a building material, these being lighter and stronger than concrete.

[Pistol]

The southern end of the MAB site remediation looks complete with the temporary wall removed next to the train line and replaced with a temporary fence.
The big shed also looks like it is being dismantled.
And they have set aside a location on Drayton Street for what will be the sales centre and carpark (Stumps already installed to reuse the Bowden sales centre.

Don't know how successful the site remediation has been, it still stinks as you go past!

[Patrick_27]

The southern end of the MAB site remediation looks complete with the temporary wall removed next to the train line and replaced with a temporary fence.
The big shed also looks like it is being dismantled.
And they have set aside a location on Drayton Street for what will be the sales centre and carpark (Stumps already installed to reuse the Bowden sales centre.

Don't know how successful the site remediation has been, it still stinks as you go past!

I believe they are moving the 'tent' structure into that south-western corner where the timber wall has come down. But you're right, it still pongs of gas and the soil for the portion of the now visible south-western corner looks fowl.

[rev]

The southern end of the MAB site remediation looks complete with the temporary wall removed next to the train line and replaced with a temporary fence.
The big shed also looks like it is being dismantled.
And they have set aside a location on Drayton Street for what will be the sales centre and carpark (Stumps already installed to reuse the Bowden sales centre.

Don't know how successful the site remediation has been, it still stinks as you go past!

I believe they are moving the 'tent' structure into that south-western corner where the timber wall has come down. But you're right, it still pongs of gas and the soil for the portion of the now visible south-western corner looks fowl.

I haven't been through the area in a while, but in hindsight you would think that when they decided to turn the area into residential, that this sort of work was undertaken then, not when there's hundreds of residents living in the area.

[Patrick_27]

The southern end of the MAB site remediation looks complete with the temporary wall removed next to the train line and replaced with a temporary fence.
The big shed also looks like it is being dismantled.
And they have set aside a location on Drayton Street for what will be the sales centre and carpark (Stumps already installed to reuse the Bowden sales centre.

Don't know how successful the site remediation has been, it still stinks as you go past!

I believe they are moving the 'tent' structure into that south-western corner where the timber wall has come down. But you're right, it still pongs of gas and the soil for the portion of the now visible south-western corner looks fowl.

I haven't been through the area in a while, but in hindsight you would think that when they decided to turn the area into residential, that this sort of work was undertaken then, not when there's hundreds of residents living in the area.

This. Not to mention the on-going road closures near this site. I live in Park Central, and my local coffee spot is on the Nightingale building, most days trying to get there involves weaving through an excess of road closures the already limited parking too (if you're driving) is made worse by an excess of tradies parked in all the available spaces. All this is made worse by the fact that some of these builds are taking years to complete. Block of town houses opposite the Nightingale building have been under construction for close to two years, apparently due to a labour shortage, whilst other groups of town houses in the area are going up much quicker. Bowden is a shit-show, it's why I can't really make sense of the state government and Renewal SA putting their finger in the pies of the West End Brewery site and Le Cornu Forestville site when they can't even get this TOD finished almost 20 years since it was first mooted.

[rev]

I believe they are moving the 'tent' structure into that south-western corner where the timber wall has come down. But you're right, it still pongs of gas and the soil for the portion of the now visible south-western corner looks fowl.

I haven't been through the area in a while, but in hindsight you would think that when they decided to turn the area into residential, that this sort of work was undertaken then, not when there's hundreds of residents living in the area.

This. Not to mention the on-going road closures near this site. I live in Park Central, and my local coffee spot is on the Nightingale building, most days trying to get there involves weaving through an excess of road closures the already limited parking too (if you're driving) is made worse by an excess of tradies parked in all the available spaces. All this is made worse by the fact that some of these builds are taking years to complete. Block of town houses opposite the Nightingale building have been under construction for close to two years, apparently due to a labour shortage, whilst other groups of town houses in the area are going up much quicker. Bowden is a shit-show, it's why I can't really make sense of the state government and Renewal SA putting their finger in the pies of the West End Brewery site and Le Cornu Forestville site when they can't even get this TOD finished almost 20 years since it was first mooted.

Private housing developments aren't any better, look at St Clair. Large tracts of land sitting empty for years now. Even Blakeview had land sitting empty for years before they built crap like McDonalds and KFC, and I'm pretty sure the Playford development is the same with large tracts of land being empty.

[SouthAussie94]

Isn't Playford a Renewal SA development too?

[SBD]

I haven't been through the area in a while, but in hindsight you would think that when they decided to turn the area into residential, that this sort of work was undertaken then, not when there's hundreds of residents living in the area.

This. Not to mention the on-going road closures near this site. I live in Park Central, and my local coffee spot is on the Nightingale building, most days trying to get there involves weaving through an excess of road closures the already limited parking too (if you're driving) is made worse by an excess of tradies parked in all the available spaces. All this is made worse by the fact that some of these builds are taking years to complete. Block of town houses opposite the Nightingale building have been under construction for close to two years, apparently due to a labour shortage, whilst other groups of town houses in the area are going up much quicker. Bowden is a shit-show, it's why I can't really make sense of the state government and Renewal SA putting their finger in the pies of the West End Brewery site and Le Cornu Forestville site when they can't even get this TOD finished almost 20 years since it was first mooted.

Private housing developments aren't any better, look at St Clair. Large tracts of land sitting empty for years now. Even Blakeview had land sitting empty for years before they built crap like McDonalds and KFC, and I'm pretty sure the Playford development is the same with large tracts of land being empty.

The large areas left near the Blakes Crossing shopping centre and the Playford Alive shops are zoned for commercial development. Now that Blakes Crossing is "finished", the commercial spaces are filling up. I agree McDonalds and KFC seem excess while there are others of the same brand nearby, but that's a commercial decision for the operators. The next section up will apparently host a gym and a cafe and maybe another childcare centre.

Blakes Crossing has filled the space the developers bought, but several streets are open at the northern end into a paddock which Renewal SA tried to sell in 2011 with no bidders. Presumably, it's got sufficient water supply and sewerage and stormwater removal, and has HV electricity nearby. The paddocks east of that were announced as having been sold to Fairland, but also have grown crops for 10 or 12 seasons with no development. I guess there's more commercial demand for flat land near the Northern Expressway instead of rising ground east of Main North Road.

Isn't Playford a Renewal SA development too?

Yes, Playford Alive is also Renewal SA.

Supposedly the large space at Playford is earmarked for Big W when Woolworths decides the time is right.