News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments

All high-rise, low-rise and street developments in areas other than the CBD and North Adelaide. Includes Port Adelaide and Glenelg.
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Re: News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments

#1711 Post by SRW » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:32 pm

I think the government is stumping up to fund enabling infrastructure.

My concern, as with other land releases, is that allotments are not just drip fed onto the market to keep prices high.
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#1712 Post by rev » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:24 am

SRW wrote:
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I think the government is stumping up to fund enabling infrastructure.

My concern, as with other land releases, is that allotments are not just drip fed onto the market to keep prices high.
The problem I see is even if they didn't slowly release land, are there enough builders to keep up? Many have gone under in recent years since the pandemic.

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#1713 Post by EBG » Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:05 pm

Update: workers have returned after Christmass break on apartment building on corner of James Conlon Dr and Hughes St Mile End as at today 15/1/2025. Now working on level 6.
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#1714 Post by Prodical » Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:49 pm

Thanks EBG

A photo this morning taken from the west parklands - not sure if there will be another level?
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#1715 Post by Jaymz » Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:50 pm

EBG wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:05 pm
Update: workers have returned after Christmass break on apartment building on corner of James Conlon Dr and Hughes St Mile End as at today 15/1/2025. Now working on level 6.

Ahhh thanks for that. I drove past this today and was trying to work out if it was apartments or a small office building, there was nothing obvious on the signage :cheers:

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#1716 Post by EBG » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:08 pm

according to
gnrc_louis » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:18 pm

EBG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:38 am
Update of (apartment ?) building on corner of James Conlon Dr and Hughes St Mile End (See post from Prodical above). Now working on level 4 pictures 28/10/2024.

These apartments are:

https://treno.net.au/

this website shows plans for a 7 story building.

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#1717 Post by abc » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:06 am

driving past there this thing dominates the skyline due to the topography and lack of anything over a few stories in the same area

I thought it was the SAIS for a while
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#1718 Post by A-Town » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:30 am

New homes will need bigger garages under proposed SA planning law changes
New South Australian homes will have to have bigger garages and more off-street parking spaces under a push to keep cars off suburban streets.

The state government will today unveil proposed planning laws that will make it mandatory for garages to have a minimum size of at least 6m in length and 3.5 in width.

The change, which is being released for public consultation, would also force homeowners to have at least two car spaces for homes with two or more bedrooms and one space for one-bedroom dwellings.

Property developers and builders who ignore the rules would be forced to pay a fee of up to $45,000 per garage into a taxpayer fund, which would be used to build more public parking and improve bicycle routes.

Premier Peter Malinauskas said the changes would help ­alleviate parking congestion across the state.

“South Australians are sick of seeing their suburbs being overrun by cars often double parked on otherwise quiet streets,” he said.

“It is ridiculous that many modern garages are not built big enough to fit the most popular cars sold in our country, from dual-cab utes right down to SUVs.

“We’re going to fix it … by bringing our planning laws up to date.

“This is a sensible measure to protect our suburbs as our state grows.”

Off-street parking spaces can be driveways that are not enclosed, but at least one per property must be able to be covered in future to the new garage size.

The laws would apply to all residential developments within Greater Adelaide.

But the government said the CBD, North Adelaide and infill developments on public transport routes could be exempt.

New data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries revealed that SUVs and utes collectively made up 79 per cent of total car sales across Australia last year.

Nine out of the top 10 best-selling new cars in 2024 were SUVs or utes, with the Toyota Corolla the only small car to make the list.

Hatchbacks and sedans had the biggest dip in popularity, with the smaller vehicles accounting for just 17 per cent of all purchases – a 3.8 per cent decline from 2023.

Campbelltown Mayor Jill Whittaker, whose council called for the sweeping changes, said current building standards did not cater for larger vehicles.

“The need for housing, the increase in population and the love of cars means that parking has become a challenge as our streets were built for less traffic and less street parking,” Ms Whittaker said.

“Current minimum parking sizes do not cater for the many larger vehicles being purchased by many people.”
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#1719 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:53 am

A-Town wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:30 am
New homes will need bigger garages under proposed SA planning law changes
Getting parked cars off streets is a plus, but we shouldn't cater to these big dumb Yank Tanks.

While some garages are built rather small (this has been the case since the 1990s), the cars are the problem, not driveway widths.

Instead, these kid killer Yank Tanks (also known as Emotional Support Vehicles for overcompensating males) should be slapped with tariffs and require a unique registration class given their greater contribution to road damage, pollution, and congestion. Get them off the road and away from our children.

Catering to space for vehicles will just perpetuate current issues - we can't have infill or more dense development in a cost-of-greed crisis with smaller and more expensive dwellings, and have more space for cars.
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#1720 Post by SRW » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:42 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:53 am
A-Town wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:30 am
New homes will need bigger garages under proposed SA planning law changes
Getting parked cars off streets is a plus, but we shouldn't cater to these big dumb Yank Tanks.

While some garages are built rather small (this has been the case since the 1990s), the cars are the problem, not driveway widths.

Instead, these kid killer Yank Tanks (also known as Emotional Support Vehicles for overcompensating males) should be slapped with tariffs and require a unique registration class given their greater contribution to road damage, pollution, and congestion. Get them off the road and away from our children.

Catering to space for vehicles will just perpetuate current issues - we can't have infill or more dense development in a cost-of-greed crisis with smaller and more expensive dwellings, and have more space for cars.
Agree. Increasing subdvision has obviously led to increased street parking, which, sure, is annoying. However the rediculous thing is not garage size but the yank tanks and 4WDs passing as trade or even family vehicles.

I worry how mandated larger garages or on-site parking space conflicts with the government's the tree policy (deep soil zone) which is supposed to stop urban canopy decline. I think garages will win out.
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#1721 Post by Nathan » Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:05 pm

Usual Mali move, treating the symptom instead of the root problem — and doing it through the lens of car focussed urban development.

Studies have shown that parking minimums will do zilch for stopping people parking on the street, and simply further push up housing prices during a housing affordability crisis. We have a cultural expectation of using the street for car storage, and unless there are restrictions and penalties put in place for parking there, people will continue to do so.

We should be doing everything we can to shake people of car dependence, so that people don't need to have one car per bedroom. Fix planning so that people have shops and services within walking distance, and stop building these 1950s residential estates where each person needs a car just to do anything.

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#1722 Post by Hooligan » Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:50 pm

Making garages bigger won’t fix anything. It will just give people a little bit more room to store all their shit. It’s common in a new areas for people to park their cars out the front while they use their 6m by 6m double garage to store an ungodly amount of shit.

Stipulating more parking areas and wider roads in new developments would help this

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#1723 Post by rev » Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:58 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:53 am
A-Town wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:30 am
New homes will need bigger garages under proposed SA planning law changes
Getting parked cars off streets is a plus, but we shouldn't cater to these big dumb Yank Tanks.

While some garages are built rather small (this has been the case since the 1990s), the cars are the problem, not driveway widths.

Instead, these kid killer Yank Tanks (also known as Emotional Support Vehicles for overcompensating males) should be slapped with tariffs and require a unique registration class given their greater contribution to road damage, pollution, and congestion. Get them off the road and away from our children.

Catering to space for vehicles will just perpetuate current issues - we can't have infill or more dense development in a cost-of-greed crisis with smaller and more expensive dwellings, and have more space for cars.
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#1724 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:07 pm

rev wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:58 pm
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:53 am
A-Town wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:30 am
New homes will need bigger garages under proposed SA planning law changes
Getting parked cars off streets is a plus, but we shouldn't cater to these big dumb Yank Tanks.

While some garages are built rather small (this has been the case since the 1990s), the cars are the problem, not driveway widths.

Instead, these kid killer Yank Tanks (also known as Emotional Support Vehicles for overcompensating males) should be slapped with tariffs and require a unique registration class given their greater contribution to road damage, pollution, and congestion. Get them off the road and away from our children.

Catering to space for vehicles will just perpetuate current issues - we can't have infill or more dense development in a cost-of-greed crisis with smaller and more expensive dwellings, and have more space for cars.
lol wow
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Re: News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments

#1725 Post by rev » Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:29 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:07 pm
rev wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:58 pm
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:53 am


Getting parked cars off streets is a plus, but we shouldn't cater to these big dumb Yank Tanks.

While some garages are built rather small (this has been the case since the 1990s), the cars are the problem, not driveway widths.

Instead, these kid killer Yank Tanks (also known as Emotional Support Vehicles for overcompensating males) should be slapped with tariffs and require a unique registration class given their greater contribution to road damage, pollution, and congestion. Get them off the road and away from our children.

Catering to space for vehicles will just perpetuate current issues - we can't have infill or more dense development in a cost-of-greed crisis with smaller and more expensive dwellings, and have more space for cars.
lol wow
I didn't hold back.
The problem imho isn't cars, the problem is a lack of public transport options for the majority.
We're building huge housing estates in the north, and most are nowhere near a train line.
You can't push people away from one mode of transport, without providing an alternative that provides convenience.

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