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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#316 Post by Norman » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:56 pm

edgar_raphael wrote:
Norman wrote:Just thinking about freeways, I noticed how easy it is to convert Anzac Highway into a freeway. I might draw up some plans later.
There are about half a dozen sets of lights and major crossroads, how is that even possible.
  • Anzac Freeway to be Grade Seperated
  • Local roads serviced by a connector road on each side of the Anzac Freeway
  • Ramps from the freeway at South Road, Beckman Street, Marion Road, Morphett Road and Brighton Road
  • End Freeway just after Brighton Road Underpass
  • 2 lanes each direction Glenelg to South Road
  • 3 lanes South Road to City
  • Incoming, seperate lanes at Brighton Road (1), Morphett Road (1), Marion Road (1), South Road (2, form 1 lane when merging at Anzac Freeway to start 3 lane Freeway)
  • Grote Tunnel - West Terrace to Wakefield Street Police HQ, exits at Victoria Square Northbound and Southbound

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#317 Post by urban » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:55 pm

That seems like a freeway for the sake of a freeway. A freeway from Glenelg to the city centre is not desirable and is certainly not worthy of the expenditure.

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#318 Post by AtD » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:28 pm

Especially with a tram line running parallel!

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#319 Post by Norman » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:42 pm

It's just an idea... in any way Anzac Highway needs to be improved from South Road to the City if they want to keep it running smoothly.

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#320 Post by drsmith » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:43 pm

Norman wrote: [*]Anzac Freeway to be Grade Seperated
[*]Local roads serviced by a connector road on each side of the Anzac Freeway
[*]Ramps from the freeway at South Road, Beckman Street, Marion Road, Morphett Road and Brighton Road
[*]End Freeway just after Brighton Road Underpass
[*]2 lanes each direction Glenelg to South Road
[*]3 lanes South Road to City
[*]Incoming, seperate lanes at Brighton Road (1), Morphett Road (1), Marion Road (1), South Road (2, form 1 lane when merging at Anzac Freeway to start 3 lane Freeway)
[*]Grote Tunnel - West Terrace to Wakefield Street Police HQ, exits at Victoria Square Northbound and Southbound[/list]
Given the wide road reserve for both Anzac Highway and Port Road I do wonder whether a better alternative to upgrading South Road is a free flowing expressway along Anzac highway east of south road, then through (or perhaps under) the parklands/West Terrace and out Port Road back to South Road. South Road would then only be upgraded further north and further south. This would also have the advantage of bringing commuter traffic to the edge of the Adelaide CBD. The Mitchell Freeway just to the west of the Perth CBD is an example of how this might work.

As for upgrading Anzac highway to a freeway west of South Road, is this necessary ?
In terms of visual amenity I imagine it would be most undiserable.

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#321 Post by Norman » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:27 pm

drsmith wrote:
Norman wrote: [*]Anzac Freeway to be Grade Seperated
[*]Local roads serviced by a connector road on each side of the Anzac Freeway
[*]Ramps from the freeway at South Road, Beckman Street, Marion Road, Morphett Road and Brighton Road
[*]End Freeway just after Brighton Road Underpass
[*]2 lanes each direction Glenelg to South Road
[*]3 lanes South Road to City
[*]Incoming, seperate lanes at Brighton Road (1), Morphett Road (1), Marion Road (1), South Road (2, form 1 lane when merging at Anzac Freeway to start 3 lane Freeway)
[*]Grote Tunnel - West Terrace to Wakefield Street Police HQ, exits at Victoria Square Northbound and Southbound[/list]
Given the wide road reserve for both Anzac Highway and Port Road I do wonder whether a better alternative to upgrading South Road is a free flowing expressway along Anzac highway east of south road, then through (or perhaps under) the parklands/West Terrace and out Port Road back to South Road. South Road would then only be upgraded further north and further south. This would also have the advantage of bringing commuter traffic to the edge of the Adelaide CBD. The Mitchell Freeway just to the west of the Perth CBD is an example of how this might work.

As for upgrading Anzac highway to a freeway west of South Road, is this necessary ?
In terms of visual amenity I imagine it would be most undiserable.
True, but in any case, Anzac Highway between South Road and the City must be improved.

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#322 Post by jimmy_2486 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:29 pm

I believe the proposed port road tunnel should go from the train line all the way past Richmond road.

In addition to doing this tunnel, they should possibly have underground ramps branching out to west tce, to allow peak hour traffic to easily get to south road.

At the end of the day, south road should be modified to handle speeds of at least 80km/h.

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#323 Post by dj_fishy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:28 am

Considering South Road will have an underpass of Sturt Road, wouldn't it make sense to simultaneously just extend the Tonsley line to Flinders already? The line comes so close, but is too far to serve any useful purpose. Failing that I would hope that they at least have the foresight to at least leave enough room to ensure minimal disruption is incurred should they extend the line in future. (I know foresight is a lot to ask for, but we can naively hope at least...)

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#324 Post by jk1237 » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:58 pm

yeah, they have set aside land to extend the Tonsley line to near the bottom on the Flinders Med Centre. Its such a simple and relatively cheap solution to extend the line so that all buses from the south stop at Bedford Int and then trains run into the city. How quicker would it be for southern residents
There was a proposal in the early 1990s to build an interchange but the liberal opposition were against it as they said it was the train to nowhere - sounds familiar. :roll:
Infact there is hardly any building on that triangle at Darlington/bedford park because it is located right above one of the largest fault line anywhere near Adelaide, so it needs to be earthquake proof.

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#325 Post by Norman » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:01 pm

The works have begun :D

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#326 Post by Norman » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:44 am

Approach from the North:


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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#327 Post by Howie » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:24 pm

Brilliant work Norman! Really great stuff.

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[COM] Re: South Road Upgrade

#328 Post by Norman » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:16 pm

Glad to do it :)

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#329 Post by Pikey » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:15 pm

I'm surprised no one has noticed the yellow crane sections on site now. South Western approach to the intersection, if you're interested in having a look.
Walking on over....

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#330 Post by Howie » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:23 pm

Took a snap of that yesterday, still sorting out my photos. :)

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