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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#556 Post by AtD » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:37 pm

Gawler Place is the one that crosses Rundle Mall and runs parallel to King William, it's a fair way east.

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#557 Post by Shuz » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:27 pm

Well, whatever. You know the street I'm talking about. Starts with a G.

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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#558 Post by Mants » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:07 pm

while we're at it, Gawler Place north of Grenfell Street should be closed to traffic.

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#559 Post by crawf » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:29 pm

No, it should be a shared zone and be completely redeveloped (similar to Leigh Street).

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#560 Post by rev » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:51 pm

crawf wrote:No, it should be a shared zone and be completely redeveloped (similar to Leigh Street).
And what's the reasoning behind that?
Adelaide drivers have enough trouble sharing the road with each other, let alone bicyclists, couldn't imagine the catastrophe that would arise from more "shared" roads.

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#561 Post by crawf » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:53 pm

Well vehicles still need access to Rundle Mall (like for out expos and functions) and businesses along the street, its worked very well on Leigh Street and other streets around Adelaide.

But as I said Gawler Place needs to be completely redeveloped and made pedestrian friendly.

I know what you mean about Adelaide drivers though :P

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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#562 Post by rhino » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:59 am

Shuz wrote:The buildings in the Gawler and Peel St laneways are too insignificant to be worthy of preservation. Anyways, I would believe that most pedestrian traffic in Gawler Place comes from KWS into Hindley, not Currie-Hindley. As for Peel Street, is it a dead end or a direct throughfare to Gawler Place? Either way the building should be built as it is, without amendments to its streetfront design, which I believe is a voluntary action to undertake than a compulsory one is it not?
Peel St runs from Hindley St to Currie Street, and along the eastern side, which is where the new building will be, has, in my opinion, just one building that I would hate to see bulldozed - the old 3-story warehouse that dates from the 1800s and is still in good condition. The rest of it looks fairly shite. Gilbert Place also runs between Hindley and Curry Streets, with a link to KWS too, and is one of our "Character Laneways".

The disappointing thing about bulldozing these old buildings is the reason - to make way for entrances to underground carparking. This means that not only do we lose some beautiful historical buildings, but we also lose two pedestrian-friendly laneways, which Adelaide needs more of, not less.

Build the building - it will look fantastic and be a great icon for Adelaide. But does it need underground carparking?
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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#563 Post by Tyler_Durden » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:07 am

frank1 wrote:I think they should just built it and loose the lane way, so be it. Adelaide has plenty of character and other nice lane ways. If we keep saying this about every lane way, no new developments will ever get built.
Ridiculous comment. Thankfully the people on the City council have far more intelligence and good taste than you.

Gilbert Street is one of the absoute gems of Adelaide. Name all these laneways that are comparable to Gilbert. If anything Adelaide has far too few of these types of streets. There is no reason this building can't get built while maintaining (or enhancing if done right) the charm and character of two of Adelaide's great little streets.

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#564 Post by rhino » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:42 am

Tyler_Durden wrote:Gilbert Street is one of the absoute gems of Adelaide. Name all these laneways that are comparable to Gilbert. If anything Adelaide has far too few of these types of streets. There is no reason this building can't get built while maintaining (or enhancing if done right) the charm and character of two of Adelaide's great little streets.
Actually, it's Gilbert Place - Gilbert Street is a different (and much bigger) street in another part of the city.
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#565 Post by Tyler_Durden » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:50 am

Sorry, my mistake. Even though I said Gilbert Street I was most definately referring to Gilbert Place.

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#566 Post by frank1 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:05 pm

Tyler_Durden wrote:
frank1 wrote:I think they should just built it and loose the lane way, so be it. Adelaide has plenty of character and other nice lane ways. If we keep saying this about every lane way, no new developments will ever get built.
Ridiculous comment. Thankfully the people on the City council have far more intelligence and good taste than you.

Gilbert Street is one of the absoute gems of Adelaide. Name all these laneways that are comparable to Gilbert. If anything Adelaide has far too few of these types of streets. There is no reason this building can't get built while maintaining (or enhancing if done right) the charm and character of two of Adelaide's great little streets.
What's intelligence got to do with personal taste? I don't call you stupid for your opinion about it being a gem. All i can say is the council is too touchy and conservative.
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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#567 Post by fast_forward » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:07 pm

[quote="rhino"][quote="Shuz"] The disappointing thing about bulldozing these old buildings is the reason - to make way for entrances to underground carparking. This means that not only do we lose some beautiful historical buildings, but we also lose two pedestrian-friendly laneways, which Adelaide needs more of, not less.


I thought that this building only had above ground parking. From what I can see on the plans, the entrance on Gilbert Place would have a foyer entry and have cafes spilling out onto the street.

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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#568 Post by AtD » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:15 pm

Fast_forward, you're correct. The entrance to the above-ground car park is on Peel Street, and there is no basement as far as I can tell.

The lifts are interesting (right out of Sim Tower!). There will be one service lift for all floors. There will also be regular 12 lifts, all stopping on Ground, and 1 though 4. Four lifts only will stop from 5 though to 11, four only from 12 though 20, and the last four from 13 though 30. Only one public lift will service the restaurant on the 31st floor.

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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#569 Post by AtD » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:30 pm

By the way, here's some nice renders no one seems to have noticed, buried all the way at the back of the DAP.

http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/Netc ... Part_4.pdf

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[CAN] Re: #Approved: 20-22 Currie St - 123m, 31 lvls

#570 Post by Shuz » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:27 pm

I'm pretty sure thats the renders of the old design. The new design as I'm aware of has a clean unbroken northern facade, with no setbacks.

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