COM: Glenelg Tramline Upgrade

[muzzamo]

Has anyone noticed the new glass screens and what I think may be timetable boards/possible advertising going up going up at the tramstops yesterday/today? Could look fairly decent. It looks like they may be electronic screens but I can't be sure.

Havent noticed them... Which stops? They are probably advertising...

[urban]

Noticed them at the Vic Sq stop this morning. They seem to be in two parts with the larger portion adjacent the uprights likely to be glazed while the smaller part is quite tall and narrow with fixing points that look intended for signage of some sort. The detailing is not quite as crisp and well resolved as the remainder of the structure.

[Will409]

Got a couple of photos of the new framing at Railway Station stop yesterday morning. These have also been installed at Rundle Mall. I'll update you all on whether Pirie Street and City West stops have these as well tommorrow when I go to TAFE.

[UrbanSG]

The Rundle Mall stop has the glazing and signs installed but everything is still blank at this stage. From what I have seen so far it looks fairly decent. I only drove past quickly so I could be wrong.

[AG]

At the Rundle Mall stop there is now an attachment on one of the verticals. It looks like one of those protective cases for timetables so maybe they are finally putting in permanent timetables to replace the temporary ones which almost looked as if they were going to become permanent.

[Edgar]

My only wish is that they will not become a subject for vandalism in the city. I hate to see what those stupid idiot do to the glass at the bus stops, such as waste of money to replace the glass every now and then because some dumbfck smash them.

[Will]

My only wish is that they will not become a subject for vandalism in the city. I hate to see what those stupid idiot do to the glass at the bus stops, such as waste of money to replace the glass every now and then because some dumbfck smash them.

I hate vandals too. However I place the blame for the recent uprise in vandals to the politically correct hippies in charge of the education and judicial systems. If people were actually punished for their actions, I wonder whether they would continue to repeat them. I think it's time we started to introduce a stronger style justice to Australia. If vandals were whipped in public, I think they would reconsider their actions.

[monotonehell]

My only wish is that they will not become a subject for vandalism in the city. I hate to see what those stupid idiot do to the glass at the bus stops, such as waste of money to replace the glass every now and then because some dumbfck smash them.

I hate vandals too. However I place the blame for the recent uprise in vandals to the politically correct hippies in charge of the education and judicial systems. If people were actually punished for their actions, I wonder whether they would continue to repeat them. I think it's time we started to introduce a stronger style justice to Australia. If vandals were whipped in public, I think they would reconsider their actions.

Proper justice isn't about punishment, it's about stopping the problems in the first place. You're laying blame at the wrong end of town, the judicial system doesn't get to see anyone until after they've been arrested. The education system plays a fair part in the moulding of young minds, but it's ultimately the fault of society as to how people turn out.

Asshat parents begat asshat children.

[Omicron]

My only wish is that they will not become a subject for vandalism in the city. I hate to see what those stupid idiot do to the glass at the bus stops, such as waste of money to replace the glass every now and then because some dumbfck smash them.

I hate vandals too. However I place the blame for the recent uprise in vandals to the politically correct hippies in charge of the education and judicial systems. If people were actually punished for their actions, I wonder whether they would continue to repeat them. I think it's time we started to introduce a stronger style justice to Australia. If vandals were whipped in public, I think they would reconsider their actions.

Proper justice isn't about punishment, it's about stopping the problems in the first place. You're laying blame at the wrong end of town, the judicial system doesn't get to see anyone until after they've been arrested. The education system plays a fair part in the moulding of young minds, but it's ultimately the fault of society as to how people turn out.

Asshat parents begat asshat children.

I for one would like to purchase an asshat and wear it out this weekend.

[monotonehell]

I for one would like to purchase an asshat and wear it out this weekend.

You do that (just remember that it's V8 weekend).

[James Renfrey]

How can people be put off about the crowded trains? Every public transport I know, is crowded during peak hours. People live with it, unless they want to drive on their own.

It is a contradictory statement. If the trams are so overcrowded then obviously people are not being put off using them. On the contrary people are using the trams more than ever. And we all know why.

Reported delays for short distance passengers passed at inner suburban stops by several full trams in succession on this first day of the Fringe and Clipsall races are evidence of the success of the trams which a one-eyed Melbourne tram-fan friend and a couple of other Victorian visitors said ARE BETTER THAN ANY IN MELBOURNE.

It may be time for shuttle trams to work further than South Terrace at peak periods. The crossover at Forestville is still at heavy rail tolerances and could be reconstructed to allow for this. Perhaps another at Marion Road, a major bus-tram interchange, would be even better. If the crossover were to be built between Marion and Cross Roads with points operated from the drivers' cabins leading to a siding which was isolated from the crossing boom barrier circuits to allow the driver to change ends, there would not be undue extra disruption to road traffic, which in any case should be taking second place in these days of looming fuel shortages and global warming.

[monotonehell]

How can people be put off about the crowded trains? Every public transport I know, is crowded during peak hours. People live with it, unless they want to drive on their own.

It is a contradictory statement. If the trams are so overcrowded then obviously people are not being put off using them. On the contrary people are using the trams more than ever. And we all know why.

Reported delays for short distance passengers passed at inner suburban stops by several full trams in succession on this first day of the Fringe and Clipsall races are evidence of the success of the trams which a one-eyed Melbourne tram-fan friend and a couple of other Victorian visitors said ARE BETTER THAN ANY IN MELBOURNE.

It may be time for shuttle trams to work further than South Terrace at peak periods. The crossover at Forestville is still at heavy rail tolerances and could be reconstructed to allow for this. Perhaps another at Marion Road, a major bus-tram interchange, would be even better. If the crossover were to be built between Marion and Cross Roads with points operated from the drivers' cabins leading to a siding which was isolated from the crossing boom barrier circuits to allow the driver to change ends, there would not be undue extra disruption to road traffic, which in any case should be taking second place in these days of looming fuel shortages and global warming.

Nice idea but isn't the real problem the non-separated grade and the inability of the current tracks to allow passing express services? If the trams didn't have to deal with intersections they would be free to operate more regular services. More regularity and the ability to pass slower services would mean that express services could service farther sectors while stopping services can service closer sectors.


Or we could just rip up the tracks and install an OBahn ... *sings the OBahn song*

[muzzamo]

Or we could just rip up the tracks and install an OBahn ... *sings the OBahn song*

You mean any kind of busway . The actual obahn concept (concrete tracks) is quite dumb - there is a reason nobody else does it

[monotonehell]

Or we could just rip up the tracks and install an OBahn ... *sings the OBahn song*

You mean any kind of busway . The actual obahn concept (concrete tracks) is quite dumb - there is a reason nobody else does it

*enraged!* What? *picks up cricket bat*

I know what you mean, but I'm at a loss as to why nobody else has picked up the concept. From everything I've read it's cheaper to run, construct and more versatile than trains, faster and safer than an unguided busway, and the tracks look cool!

[muzzamo]

requiring special busses, not allowing vehicles to pass each other, and not allowing emergency vehicles are 3 things that come to mind

But the concept of a busway in general was waaay ahead of its time for Australia, and many, many years on we are still reaping its benefits