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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#181 Post by muzzamo » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:50 pm

that would be ideal, but extending it 100m will allow it to connect to the South Road busses that go through there. I would say on average they would come through about once a minute or less.

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#182 Post by monotonehell » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:00 pm

muzzamo wrote:that would be ideal, but extending it 100m will allow it to connect to the South Road busses that go through there. I would say on average they would come through about once a minute or less.
I see... while that would make it more convenient, I bet people already walk the 100m to make that connection if it's useful to them. 100m isn't far... Rundle Mall is about 500m long... it's over 100m from the Hilton to the eastern side of Victoria Square.
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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#183 Post by Splashmo » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:06 pm

Isn't it a little strange the tram line is going only to the Entertainment Centre? How patronised to we expect that to be?

Or is it that that same line will be making it out to Semaphore and the Port - or are those suburbs going to be served by a tram/train hybrid?

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#184 Post by aussie2000 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:16 pm

Splashmo wrote:Isn't it a little strange the tram line is going only to the Entertainment Centre? How patronised to we expect that to be?

Or is it that that same line will be making it out to Semaphore and the Port - or are those suburbs going to be served by a tram/train hybrid?
yer i think the line will continue to the port or semaphore, the entertainment centre is just the first stage

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#185 Post by flavze » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:17 pm

Splashmo wrote:Isn't it a little strange the tram line is going only to the Entertainment Centre? How patronised to we expect that to be?

Or is it that that same line will be making it out to Semaphore and the Port - or are those suburbs going to be served by a tram/train hybrid?
Hindmarsh stadium will be serviced by it as well by stopping at the Entertainment centre.

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#186 Post by urban » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:18 pm

Being developed as a park and ride station it will be pretty well patronised. From here it gives the govt the flexibility to extend tramlines down Port Rd or Grange Rd or both. Extending it down Grange Rd would provide a great catalyst for urban infill and regeneration between Hindmarsh and Grange.

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#187 Post by Tyler_Durden » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:34 pm

Splashmo wrote:Isn't it a little strange the tram line is going only to the Entertainment Centre? How patronised to we expect that to be?
That's what I thought too, then I read further and saw that they plan a park and ride facility (at a cost). Mind you, by the time you add two tram fares to the cost of parking near the Ent Cent it may not work out much cheaper than parking in the city. I don't want to jump to conclusions and will wait and see how it works but that would be my concern at the moment.

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#188 Post by crawf » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:00 pm

It will connect with the existing Outer Harbour line, with the line being upgraded to allow hybrid train-trams.

Which would allow extensions to Port Adelaide CBD, West Lakes and Semaphore. Its a great vision IMO

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#189 Post by Wayno » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:26 pm

Splashmo wrote:Isn't it a little strange the tram line is going only to the Entertainment Centre? How patronised to we expect that to be?

Or is it that that same line will be making it out to Semaphore and the Port - or are those suburbs going to be served by a tram/train hybrid?
Channel 7 news said the tram line will go down the middle of port rd to the entertainment centre, and then use the existing rail corridor (on the Nth side of port rd) for the remainder of the way down to port adelaide.
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#190 Post by Cruise » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:34 pm

um, they are resleepering the Belair line but not going to electrify it?

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#191 Post by AtD » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:58 pm

FUCK!

http://www.dtei.sa.gov.au/__data/assets ... %20web.pdf

Maps, "renders" and all sorts! Trams outside the Port Adelaide lighthouse... Perth-style (?) trains in Oaklands Park... "trams coast-to-coast" (lol)... and that's just the 3 pages I've got though so far.

It's going to take me a week to take all of this in.

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#192 Post by shiftaling » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:00 pm

This is exciting! I can't wait to see some maps :)

If it goes down Port Road I will be able to catch the tram from my front door straight to work! At least until SAPOL moves

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#193 Post by AtD » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:14 pm

Bus lanes for Hackney Road! Gated O-Bahn interchanges! Wheeee!

BUT! The first thing I've found that I disagree with:
Sparks on the Grange line... WHY?

Oh well, I guess it's better than a Grange Freeway.

PLEASE let this get though the Senate!

(Yeah I need to calm down...)

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#194 Post by Düsseldorfer » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:19 pm

AtD wrote:Maps, "renders" and all sorts! Trams outside the Port Adelaide lighthouse... Perth-style (?) trains in Oaklands Park... "trams coast-to-coast" (lol)... and that's just the 3 pages I've got though so far.

It's going to take me a week to take all of this in.
Ok if we're getting trains identical to Perth by 2015 then they will already be an old design and old technology, we need something new and that will be unique not just a copy of an old design!!

But the budget sounds pretty good, bring on electrification!! and more trams!! still hoping for a city underground in the near future :wank:

I think Rann and the Labor party have my vote in the next election:)

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Re: #Proposed : Port Adelaide Tram Line

#195 Post by Norman » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:23 pm

A full list of upgrades here:

Outer Harbor Train Service:
-To be electrified by 2011
-Running along current corridor
-Using Electric Trains

Grange Train Line:
-To be electrified by 2011
-Running along current corridor
-Using Electric Trains

Noarlunga & Tonsley Train Line:
-To be electrified by 2014
-Running along current corridor
-Using electric trains

Gawler Train Line:
-To be electrified by 2016
-Running along current corridor
-Using electric Trains

Belair Line
-No electrification, but resleepering by 2010
-Running along current corridor
-Using 12 remaining diesel 3000-class trains

NEW! Entertainment Centre Tram Line:
-To be completed in 2009 & extended by 2016 to WL and SP lines
-Using current trams + 2nd hand stock
-Through-routed to Glenelg
-Travelling City West - Entertainment Centre

NEW! West Lakes Tram Line:
-To be completed in 2016
-Using Train-Tram Vehicles
-May be through-routed to Glenelg
-Travelling City West - Entertainment Centre - Bowden - Woodville - Albert Park then new line to West Lakes via West Lakes Boulevard

NEW! Semaphore Tram Line
-To be completed 2018
-Using Train-Tram Vehicles
-Through-routed to Glenelg
-Travelling City West - Entertainment Centre - Bowden - Woodville - Alberton then new alignment to Semaphore via Port Adelaide
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