Crane Counter: CBD 8 | Metro 8 | Total 16

[skyliner]

Agreed! Looking healthy for our city guys - best in the 1980's boom was eight. More coming as well!
What an entry to KWS Sth - puts a stop to all the garbage about Adelaide as the 'rust bucket'.

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[Ben]

Well with Thomson Playford down on the weekend and Aurora not complete will we ever exceed 7 cranes? Heres hoping a bit later in the year.

[skyliner]

Ben, in answer to your Q - found this in Fin. Review P52 17/7/08

CBD Office Vacancies On The Rise
Adelaide has benefitted from the resources boom and it's vacancy rate has bucked the trend. It fell from 5.7% in the first quarter to to 4.7% in the second - the lowest level since 1986.

Good news - but could reflect not enough offices available so not enough building - but the demand is there so still looks good. All the other cities had increasing rates - maybe due to huge office blocks going up too.

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[MoonDog]

Crane Counter? Krazy but Kool...! I was always interested in the amount of cranes (development) on the skyline of 'RAdelaide' and I thought I was the only one, til I came across this blog thingy... Well in the '80's I observed more than 8 cranes ( as suggested by a friend in an earlier blog) viewing from the River Torrens Restaurant complex (where Red Ochre is currently) and I thought we were moving along quite smartly.. then came the State Bank collapse and things seem to alter..(presumably). The next time We visited the same restaurant, a couple of years later I observed only 1 crane. I discovered it was for the ATO office building, (Commonwealth $$$) egad! Is this the best we can do...!
Anyway current height laws are B*?#*:+it! A well designed feature building or 3 of significant height may be an indication of our prosperity and also enhance the prosperity of skyline photo takers and artists etc.. as well as having people feel that the backwater status (what water) that we currently enjoy in 'lil 'ol Adelaide may finally be a faded memory...
As Peter Goers once suggested 'Up Yours North Adealaide'
Anyway- I feel better now....

[Maximus]

Glad you like it, MoonDog.

The count is back down to seven with the removal of the Thomson Playford crane. Or perhaps, technically, we're at six-and-a-half, seeing as the Aurora crane is only half up.

1. Lot 8 (16-20 Coglin Street)
2. Octagon Apartments (88-90 Hindley Street)
3. iPad (302-306 Waymouth Street)
4. Conservatory on Hindmarsh (41 Hindmarsh Square)
5. The Precinct (191-199 Morphett Street)
6. Wave & Edge (11-19 Gilles Street)
7. Aurora on Pirie

[Shuz]

Updated 24/07/08.

New feature added to Construction Status section. Building site names are now hyperlinked to corresponding thread, so cross-viewing is now more accessible.

Construction 2008.xls

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• Space Apartments now U/C, in demolition stages.
  Conservatory on Hindmarsh floorplate height up, structural height down. (I had it wrong!)
  Tivoli Apartments now complete, and removed from listings.

[MoonDog]

You are on it brother! Good on you....

[Jim]

In Melbourne recently there were over 40 cranes in sight from the Rialto tower, several sites had up to 4 cranes (ANZ docklands and the new Soccer stadium). I was in Sydney a month or two before that and there were only three or four, Given Adelaide’s population we are doing very well.

[Shuz]

Updated, refer to this page's link.

[Professor]

Ahhh... The 80s

Then the State Bank had 2, several on North tce, incl the Hyatt, the submarine contract was ours, pleanty of confidence and all was fine.

Well it wasn't really - with no-one on the Board who had a clue about banking, the State Bank debt and incompetence drove SA into over a decade of decline / standstill, which lasted until quite recently.

Now with the Hills, Spire, Balfours, KWS, Space and Hindmarsh sq (X 2) on the way, we may get into double crane figures for a while.

Back to the future? Not really, with mining on the increase, defence contracts building momentum and only a good rain preventing a boom in crops, SA is better placed now than for the past two generations to move ahead (they were the busy days of GM and Chrysler setting up in SA, high migration rates and extensive building of roads, hospitals and schools - but that's another story)

[Wayno]

shuz, would be great if you added 2 pieces of info to your database for each building.

• 1) ACC Height Limit
  2) OLS Height Limit (approx is ok)

This will highlight how many buildings exceed the ACC/OLS limits, or could have been taller if they had simply asked...

[skyliner]

An interesting read from Brisbane in the Courier Mail.(also known colloquially as the 'Curious mail) 27/7/08 P15

What we've all known all along but now from the horse's mouth

Entract from 'Boom Times Here For Cool Operators'. (interview with a crane operator)

....Crane operators say business has grown 300% in the last three years and demand has outstripped supply.

It can take many months before a crane is available for a building site.

And it can be a two year wait to take delivery od a new crane fron stretched out overseas supplies....

Pay can be more than $100,000 P.A. (thought i'd just add this bit from the article).

This could well explain some of the delays associated with our own projects and the ease with which one could be 'bought off' from another as well as the fierce competition just to get one. Very expensive to hire

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[Jim]

Love to see a floor counter as well, (not necessary floor by floor as they are built) but building by building. It would be great to have the total number of floors constructed in the CBD each year. Might be several hundred currently planned or under construction. This would give us a nice picture about what’s happening and lobby for some tall ones. Cheers

[Jim]

I have added a floors counter attachment . We currently have an amazing 234 floors under construction in Adelaide in a total of 718 in application, approval, and construction. It’s a shame that council/government don't bang some developers heads together to jointly work on some taller buildings of greater architectural merit.

Sorry Will just realized you have done something simular
Cheers Jim

[skyliner]

Today I got to the crane counter sticky thread via this thread. The crane thread vanished. Did I miss something here?

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