News & Discussion: Trams

[jk1237]

Toronto, Canada









Munich, Germany



older one


now if these are available, i like this one for Adelaide (below)


Rome, Italy, now these have doors on both sides like in Oz





an older Roman, weirdo tram

[Somebody]

The Z3 class have their origins in the mid 1970s since they were a variant of the Z1 and Z2 classes introduced in 1975 and 1977 respectively. Until last year, they still had 1970s flip over destination boards. These two trams, while mechanically solid and are well liked by tram crews are somewhat outdated. They don't even have airconditioning and there are no plans to retrofit them either! The B class continued to be built with no design revisions right up until 1994!

Z3's had roller blinds until 2007, not flippers and now have awful scolling destinations. Even when the entire word (like "West Coburg") fits on it all at once, it still scrolls from side to side!

Z1/Z2's used to have flippers until the 1990s but they got normal electronic ones (which they still have).

I wouldn't say those are too archaic - air conditioning is not really needed, although they are relics compared to the modern low-floor articulated trams of up to 5 sections which are all the rage these days (like Adelaide's Flexities and Combinos in Melbourne).

Let's not forget which city was still using a fleet of exclusively 1920s built trams until a couple of years ago!

[jk1237]

oh its broadgauge, hello there

England

Sheffield


Nottingham




south London (Croydon trams)

[Shuz]

I really like the Nottingham trams. They look damn fine.

[Somebody]

oh its broadgauge

Got a problem with that?

hello there

Hello.

Sheffield

Thought you must have been timmy-brissy for a second!

[Cruise]

How many people can a typical Tram/Train hybrid thingy hold?

[Norman]

250-300 IIRC.

[jk1237]

just had a quick look at that railpage website. Now I dont know if Will409 is joking or being serious, but due to overcrowding and a shortage of trams, we maybe getting some really really old trams from Budapest, Hungary.

Take a look at what Transadelaide will lease for 2-5 years, a UV tram



this is amusing

and a quote from 409 on railpage

The Budapest trams are either going to be leased or purchased by TransAdelaide as a stop gap measure in a similar vain to the Melbourne C2s from Mulhouse. The expected life span of these trams is going to be somewhere between 2 and 5 years. If you refer back a couple of pages, you will see the tender that has been let by the DTEI/TransAdelaide which goes into some more detail. I should point out that the link on the post is now dead although all the tender text has been quoted.

[Cruise]

Its not the first of April yet jk-lots-of-numbers

[Will409]

On Railpage, I most certainly wasn't pulling a fast one on everyone. I received a tip off from another member that the trams would be sourced from Budapest and followed another link to do some investigating. I found out that a number of the Budapest UV class are immediately available and are built to the same over all width of the Flexis at 2.4m wide as well as running on the same track gauge and overhead voltage. I never said that they will definately lease them but if you join all the dots together, it does all fit into place.

100% full DDA compliance will not be inforced for another few years and the 2 - 5 year operational time frame for these trams (should they or indeed another design that I havn't been informed about arrive) does fit with the estimated amount of time they would see in service.

I may very well be proven wrong but if you join all the dots together, it does make a certain degree of sense.

[jk1237]

well there is no reason why they cant be used for the city shuttles, to free up the flexities for Glenelg and Ent Centre runs. They do look funny though. Imagine K W street with these running along. Do they have automatic doors Will409
And being UV, they should cope well under the harsh Australian sun. Sorry, I made myself laugh for a second.

[Will409]

From what video's I have seen of them on youtube, it looks like the doors are driver operated. I personally imagine that IF they do come here, they would probably be used in peak hour service only when the demand is greatest.

[Shuz]

I hope we don't get those. What a joke.

[monotonehell]

I hope we don't get those. What a joke.

I hope we do.

But only if the drivers and ticket sellers speak nothing but Hungarian, there's traditional Hungarian music played by gypsies on board and all the signage and livery remains as is.

[monotonehell]

...oh! and live chickens on the overhead luggage racks.