[DEF] AAMI Stadium Upgrade | $100m | 52,000

[adam73837]

Hmm, looks like Furious Foley, Media Mike and the SANFL will just sweep this under the rug and continue with their pathetic vision for a stadium that will probably be knocked down in the next decade.

[Wayno]

I thought the SACA did not want AFL at Adelaide Oval?

Seems SACA is keen for more AFL games. Must be the AFL who don't want to play at Adelaide Oval? I've highlighted a few sentences in the article below - must say i agree with everything being said...

http://www.independentweekly.com.au/new ... 24827.aspx

What a fabulous weekend of football, with Hawthorn slaying the mighty Geelong in the AFL grand final at the MCG and Glenelg thrashing Sturt to set up an SANFL grand final clash with rampaging Central District at AAMI Stadium on Sunday.
The SANFL finals played at picturesque Adelaide Oval have been the best for many years with high-class football on display and terrific crowds in attendance. The SANFL, under the control of executive commissioner Leigh Whicker, is to be congratulated for putting out a quality product and a lift in attendances, but now is the time for the hierarchy to make a tough decision for the benefit of our local competition: move future grand finals to Adelaide Oval.

The time is cherry-ripe to make a change and go back to the ground which hosted so many of the old finals; the last of which was the 1973 classic between Glenelg and North Adelaide. So many benefits would be derived in making the switch and I'm sure a 10 per cent increase in crowd attendance would occur.

Thirty thousand screaming fans at Adelaide Oval makes for a better atmosphere than 30,000 at AAMI Stadium. I'm confident it would be a sell-out at Adelaide Oval. Watching the supporters mingling on the hill in front of the beautiful scoreboard was like turning back time. The atmosphere was electric, as they say. And I reckon the players, supporters and media representatives also prefer the finals at Adelaide Oval - for convenience, comfort and ambience.

To make the move, the SANFL obviously has to be compensated and the SACA would also have to benefit - perhaps by charging a ground booking fee and sharing a small percentage of catering profits. The SACA is desperate to host some AFL games in future years and hosting an SANFL grand final certainly would not harm its chances.

AAMI Stadium is a big-event venue and is ideal for the Crows and the Power, as well as concerts such as the recent Robbie Williams show. No longer is it an ideal venue for our local league and if the powers that be can get their heads together, surely an arrangement can be put in place where it's a win-win situation for all concerned.

If the fans were polled, I'm sure they would want the SANFL grand final back at Adelaide Oval, starting from next year.

[Cruise]

Adelaide Oval does not have the capacity currrently.

[Wayno]

Adelaide Oval does not have the capacity currrently.

i believe it does for all SANFL finals, and perhaps a few "demonstration" AFL games to whet everyone's appetite, the goal being to see what happens patronage-wise in the city after the games. Sort of like "try before you buy"...

[rev]

I go to the footy, am I a bogan?
You go too, consider your self one?

Seeing as you also go to the footy often, surely you know what sort of people you get there?

So lets get this straight, so there are no misunderstandings, you are labeling your self a bogan?
I do go quite often, and not everyone who attends an AFL match is a bogan. And I see no reason to stereotype all football supporters as such.

Stupid arguement really at the end of the day Football Park is an Australian Rules Football ground, Not a soccer ground.

This article is like saying you can't play aussie rules at hindmarsh because it's too small

No, its not a stupid argument, its an argument that highlights the stupid situation Adelaide is currently in.
We do not need a stadium for every sporting team, when several sports teams from various different sports codes could all be accommodated in one large, multipurpose stadium.
Such a stadium would be used far more then these individual stadiums, which lie dormant for large portions of the year.
Is it really worth having a 51,515 capacity stadium that is used once a week in winter and is empty in summer? Or would it be of more value to have a stadium with 51,515 capacity that can be reconfigured internally(eg retractable seating) to accommodate other sports codes, that would be used all year round?

It is simple logic.

I have a sneaking suspicion though, that we will see a new stadium in Adelaide in the next ten years, and it will be this current Labor government responsible for it.


Wayno, I believe it was SACA who did not want AFL/SANFL played at AO at all, I think thats part of the reason Footy Park was built back in the day.
The only reason they want it now is for the financial benefits. They probably have some belief that if they turn it into a busy stadium they could justify to the government to fund more expansions.

[Cruise]

Adelaide Oval does not have the capacity currrently.

i believe it does for all SANFL finals, and perhaps a few "demonstration" AFL games to whet everyone's appetite, the goal being to see what happens patronage-wise in the city after the games. Sort of like "try before you buy"...

But as it is, the SANFL grand final would sell out and leave people waiting, do you want that?

[Cruise]

So lets get this straight, so there are no misunderstandings, you are labeling your self a bogan?
I do go quite often, and not everyone who attends an AFL match is a bogan. And I see no reason to stereotype all football supporters as such.

I never missed a power game this year, If they were playing at football park or Adelaide oval or even on the bloody moon i still would have gone.

I do not consider myself a bogan. But there are many who attend the Footy that are so.

Stupid arguement really at the end of the day Football Park is an Australian Rules Football ground, Not a soccer ground.

This article is like saying you can't play aussie rules at hindmarsh because it's too small

No, its not a stupid argument, its an argument that highlights the stupid situation Adelaide is currently in.
We do not need a stadium for every sporting team, when several sports teams from various different sports codes could all be accommodated in one large, multipurpose stadium.
Such a stadium would be used far more then these individual stadiums, which lie dormant for large portions of the year.
Is it really worth having a 51,515 capacity stadium that is used once a week in winter and is empty in summer? Or would it be of more value to have a stadium with 51,515 capacity that can be reconfigured internally(eg retractable seating) to accommodate other sports codes, that would be used all year round?

It is simple logic.

9,000 or so went to see Adelaide play Central Coast on Friday night, that is proof Adelaide does not need a larger stadium for soccer (yet) sure, for the AFC a larger stadium would be optimal, but from week to week of the A leauge season a 45,000 seat stadium would be too large to ever fill.

Wayno, I believe it was SACA who did not want AFL/SANFL played at AO at all, I think thats part of the reason Footy Park was built back in the day.

Correct

The only reason they want it now is for the financial benefits. They probably have some belief that if they turn it into a busy stadium they could justify to the government to fund more expansions.

Also correct, Though Adelaide oval would be horrible for Footy, given its deep pockets it is not the right size for modern Australian Rules Football

[Wayno]

Wayno, I believe it was SACA who did not want AFL/SANFL played at AO at all, I think thats part of the reason Footy Park was built back in the day.
The only reason they want it now is for the financial benefits. They probably have some belief that if they turn it into a busy stadium they could justify to the government to fund more expansions.

i'm sure you'd agree financial benefits are a reasonable justification? and yes, a busy stadium in a strategically sensible location with capacity constraints should probably attract govt funding...

[Wayno]

Adelaide Oval does not have the capacity currrently.

i believe it does for all SANFL finals, and perhaps a few "demonstration" AFL games to whet everyone's appetite, the goal being to see what happens patronage-wise in the city after the games. Sort of like "try before you buy"...

But as it is, the SANFL grand final would sell out and leave people waiting, do you want that?

Regular sold out matches at AO might change the SA Govt's attitude to where they choose to direct funding. It will certainly be interesting to note the AAMI stadium crowd size at tomorrows SANFL Grand Final...

[Cruise]

I am willing to bet my left nut that the SANFL grand final will get a crowd very close,if not more than the capacity of Adelaide oval tomorrow (33,000 or so)

[rev]

Absolutely financial benefits are justification for SACA to seek to gain more footy matches at AO.
They are running a business, and have to do what is in the best interests of the business.

But, should it occur, and more funding be given to AO for expansions, those expansions will likely not be to turn AO into a multipurpose venue allowing other sports codes which do not use an oval shaped playing area to also properly use the stadium. Try telling Les the grounds keeper that the grass he devotes his life too will have retractable seating rolling on and off it. Good luck walking away with your hearing


Cruise I'm aware a lot of bogans go to the footy. But the majority are not. There are a lot of old people(retirees) and kids, and to a lesser extend families. I certainly wouldn't categorize them as bogans.
Bogans you'll find usually at the bars at the stadium, watching the games on a television.
Since your a Port supporter I'll take it easy on you

[Cruise]

Rev, i would like to have a beer or three with you as we watch the power play

So then we can discuss a new stadium.

[cruel_world00]

I would like to ask those who are either against a new inner CBD stadium, or pro-AAMI... do you think the state of SA deserves to have a premier stadium like AAMI as the centrepiece to any major event? Because as it stands, Adelaide Oval would not be sufficient when it comes to major events... and AAMI seems to be the desired ground for this government... do we deserve this ground?




My personal answer to this question is no. We are not a third world country. We can look to our government for a first rate hospital and also decent infrastructure. AAMI as a ground is outdated, the location is not what a modern city requires and the general lay out and ability to house many sports is also pathetic.

Like I have stressed time and time and time and time and time and time and time AGAIN... we are not asking for a stadium tomorrow, next year... or even in 5 years... but we are asking for vision, and building a hospital on or near the last prime real estate in the city is a joke and wrong.... find another location for a mood killing hospital that will add nothing. I mean someone mentioned the impacts of a stadium on a city and that rather than looking at the potential positives...look at the inward negatives of it... well what the **** do you think a hospital is going to do? I'm pretty sure the RAH hasn't added to city activity and it has been there for years.

/end rant

[cruel_world00]

P.S I was talking to someone from Minister Michael Wright's staff and asked if the upgrade would bring the stadium to FIFA standards and even they coulnd't guarantee this.

AAMI is a joke....upgrade or no upgrade.

[Cruise]

I'm sure the SANFL would love to play at a ground they don't own, and at a ground that has half its turf ripped up every summer for soccer seating. Have a look at the shit house condition of Homebush Stadiums turf (for Australian Rules Football)